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    Old Skool Near Term Doom Porn

    I will put this here as a thought .... it is not my words nor my consideration but may be of value to some one? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "This is not where we will be going. This time has now gone and humanity is not of the same mental structure now. We will find out how and why it was once like this and how it fits our history. Between the time that has gone and the time that got us here is as far back as we have travelled. This is where we will be talking to the Gods, this will be the focus of our contact I have never been to the earth described above but I have listened to people whom know they have lived before. I never talked about the earth of this post, I listened to those with past lives and their descriptions of themselves and their environment, as they remembered it. Many whom know they have lived before on earth before remember a life where they possessed different abilities . Their earth glowed in unique colours, landscapes were alien compared to earth of today , skylight was a different hue and it all felt different. I never heard the mention of shadows. They knew it was earth but could never link it to the earth as now exists. Similarly the ones whom know they have lived on Mars or planets which are not earth. To them the memory is real but the physical attributes of those same planets today, Mars etc., makes comparison impossible. We have no plan to travel back to those times but I am thinking that it would be unatural not to if we can. We can and will travel to the period of the great change. That period of up to three thousand years of realignment. The actual event was abrupt, "zap" and everything changed. What followed were awe inspiring events as our entire solar system settled into what we see and we know today. That "zap" event and the thousand(s) of years of realignment very deeply effected the phyche of the inhabitants of earth. Their survival, through generations of seeing the wonder and of living in through the hell is deeply seated in their subconsciouses to this very day. That same memory is also contained within the archytypes that accompanied them through this journey or formed from their collective experiences of the journey. When the great realignment was complete humanity, looked on with a it`s new minds. They had touched by the Gods. All had watched and lived in wonder, generation upon generation, whilst their world transformed and the sky convulsed with wondress visions and sounds. The sky and their world went from light to dark, light dark, light dark, on and on. They each aquired a shadow, everything aquired a shadow, a perfect dark self. Thousands of Gods came into view everytime it went dark, far away but with one bigger and closer by far than all others . In the light a magnifecent close God radiated it`s power over all and sometimes the God most magnificent in the dark and the God most powerful of the light were seen together. What strangly magnifecent new world it was. It is easy to imagine the criteria that formed in the new minds of humanity once realising that the "war" was settled and it was possible to consider the re-construction of their lost civilisation. Humanities memories retained knowing the essence of life before the now ended catastrophic era and those same new minds were full of the knowledge and experiences, sucessive generations had endured since the very long time past of living those sacredly cherished memories of a life, enjoyed so very much. The sights and sounds, embedded in their new minds, with translation of meaning formed through the physical and emotional experience that the changing era had forced on them combined to form a collective translation of why. Why it occured and what the occurence both physicly and symbolicly said to them. What humanity witnessed while living through the era of chaotic transformation was physical not esorteric. The sights and sounds were never hallucinations, they were physical, touchable, smellable effects of awsome "Gods" manifesting unimaginable feats of power on the grandest of scales continuously over generation upon generation of human life. These physical manifestations were the living story of the Gods in conflict and the saga, with it`s meanings and outcomes, was now as much a part of the true history of humanity as was the remembered endless time of beauty, which preceded it. The final realined settled outcome was known to be the result of the titanic struggle, details and meaning of which were forever more etched deeply into the hearts and minds of all whom survived to recount the saga. They knew whom was who in this new Pantheon of Gods and they knew how those Gods got there and why. The population of earth was spread in much the same area`s we live in today, numbers though were dramatically smaller. Gathered into groups with big gaps in between of few people. Life stlyes being maintained throughout the Gods drama reflecting to a large degree, the environment and circumstances that humanity found it`self in. There were periods of up to several generations at a time when the activity of the Gods, although spectacular, was pretty static and less intrusive. Through these times progress was made in increasing the comfort and quality of their lives. The sky events witnessed and experieced by the whole population were in general global in their manifestation, high in the now alien sky, watched and wondered at by all. Some of these Gods actions physicly touched between the earth and the sky and these, although spectacular and of great scale, were not witnessed by the whole population of the planet. Sound played a big part with the sky frequently filled with a cacophony of alien sounds. The Gods literally screamed and howled with tremendous volume. When the realinement was complete the entire population of the planet earth had lived through the most destructive and terrifying era, beyond the comprehension or imagination of any of todays clever thinkers. The era lasted several thousands of years and the minds of humanity transmuted when forced to endure such continues turmoil. It altered to make sense of all that had become chaos . All humanity retained the memory of their previous time of beauty, passed on as sacred knowledge preserving forever their knowing, never to forget what they they realy are, despite what they had been forced to become. Humans of grace and beauty alive in a divine world of harmonic wonder and effortless peace." "how many generations of mating underground within telluric current light does it take for our birth skin to become whiteis the thought " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As stated not my thought ....... but an interesting notion?
  2. ink

    Old Skool Near Term Doom Porn

    Maybe this will be of interest to you?
  3. wordsrwind A cry from ancient spirits begging today's generation to remember who they are And I always wondered where @muir went every so often lol .... :)
  4. Ok.... I went through your posts a few times (not just the two within this thread which were addressed to me, but also within this forum .... and the old one) and we are not just of a differing perception of this 'life' .... we are different types of being. I began to construct a reply .... listing all which I feel as abhorrent within your two posts (I began to split them into law, morals and other and then write my considered rebuttals, I even intended to postulate that the mayor of your town use 'droit du seigneur' upon your daughter and that you would acquiesce due to your being complicit to the proffered laws of another and as such a brown-shirt of the first order and a coward ) .... but you know what .... There is no point. All I need do is quote your words above :( I do not consider you a stupid human .... just a subservient one and as such you enable those who are evil within this place. Without your kind they could not do as they will. Take this post in the manner that it is written .... that which I intended to write would have been vastly more critical of you. I do not care for your response ....... time is near an end and you have become meaningless to me. Continue to serve your master .... and become naught.
  5. My post from the music thread.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A short trip to find something I had forgotten.... Why is there a feeling within a particular sound ....... which draws me? So I looked and this is given .... hu being a Mongolian root word for "human" .... Which then lead to something earlier being given ....... This is the sound ....... the feeling :) The 'group' is : Yes this feels right ....... :) Thats closer to home :)
  6. I have posted within the music thread something I wish to show itself in a greater form....which is this thread. I shall re-post it below this post. To explain the nature of it.... Heilung means healing, and it's the final message of this show. When you look through the set and the translations behind the lyrics, it's about a peaceful society being driven to war because their enemy only speaks the language of the sword. But during the conflict, their shaman/soothsayer guy reads the bones and discovers the only rune that has significance in the future is 'Ear' ... the 'Grave' or 'Death Incarnate'. Then, the final song's lyrics are taken from the Merseberg Incantations where Wodan heals a horse's broken leg with a chant of healing. So the entire show is about healing the world of man from the scars of war, lest we be overtaken by the grave. There are so very many comments from all around this realm posted in each single 'song' from this performance art.... and all describe the same feeling which is summed up within this comment.... Lamyka L. 6 months ago Eo! As a Hawaiian woman this made me cry tears of joy to hear the voices of our Indigenous cousins—like hearing your sibling sing when you had believed them dead. Malama Pono, may the Gods bless Heilung. This is the full performance .... please remember that this is a story, a poem, a telling from the past .... Remember, that we all are brothers All people, beasts, trees and stone and wind We all descend from the one great being That was always there Before people lived and named it Before the first seed sprouted :)
  7. Ok .... I am not going to reply to this yet. I have read it 5 times now and I am rather saddened by it :( I know that we haven't been great buddies or even agree on much of anything .... but I am very surprised that you, handle, consider that which you post to be correct! I actually thought more of you. I would ask you to re-consider it? please!
  8. ink

    Music You Like

    A short trip to find something I had forgotten.... Why is there a feeling within a particular sound ....... which draws me? So I looked and this is given .... hu being a Mongolian root word for "human" .... Which then lead to something earlier being given ....... This is the sound ....... the feeling :) The 'group' is : Yes this feels right ....... :) Thats closer to home :)
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    The Trump, Israel, Russia alliance

    I will add this .... which is a summery of the UR lodges.... It is a 24 page PDF A summary of the contents of Gioele*Vol. I – THE DISCOVERY OF THE UR-LODGES Magaldi’s book “Massoni” (Freemasons)
  10. ink

    climate change in Australia

    So.... 0.4% of the atmosphere is Co2.... 3% of the 0.4% is man made .... Let me re-state .... zero point four percent of the 'air' is Carbon dioxide (which is required for fucking life to exist here) and three percent OF THE ZERO POINT FOUR PERCENT is made by the actions of humans! More would be good! New sun-driven cooling period of Earth ‘not far off’ "Nils-Axel Morner, a former head of the Paleo-Geophysics and Geodynamics Department in Stockholm, says a new solar-driven cooling period for the Earth is ‘not far off’."
  11. ink

    Old Skool Near Term Doom Porn

    lol ....... solo, I do not consider that you need worry in any way, shape nor form :)
  12. Killing Free Speech In Canada by Tyler Durden Thu, 08/15/2019 - 23:05 Authored by Judith Bergman via The Gatestinbe Institute, As has become standard in such cases, the charter contains no definition of what constitutes "hate", making it a catchall for whatever the Canadian government deems politically inopportune. This is all exhaustingly familiar by now: Germany already has legislation that requires social media platforms to censor their users. France is working on it. The Conservative members of the committee... recommended instead that sanctions regarding hate crimes online or elsewhere should be dealt with under the appropriate sections of the Criminal Code. They also recommended that "The definition of 'hate' under the Criminal Code be limited to where a threat of violence, or incitement to violence, is directed against an identifiable group" and that "rather than attempting to control speech and ideas, the Government explore appropriate security measures to address all three elements of a threat: intent, capability and opportunity". "Sickening ideologies which encourage individuals to take the lives of their fellow human beings have faced a concerning proliferation both at home and around the world. Yet sadly, Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Members of this Committee have tried to use these troubling events as a way to bolster their political fortunes. They have tried to paint anyone who doesn't subscribe to their narrow value set as an extremist." – Conservative Party dissenting opinion in "Taking Action to End Online Hate". In May, Canada launched a so-called Digital Charter, meant to promote "trust in a digital world". The charter contains ten principles, three of which deal with "hate speech and disinformation". The charter, said Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, will target fake news and hate speech online. "The platforms are failing their users, and they're failing our citizens," he said. "They have to step up in a major way to counter disinformation. And if they don't, we will hold them to account and there will be meaningful financial consequences." "The Government of Canada," the charter says, "will defend freedom of expression and protect against online threats and disinformation designed to undermine the integrity of elections and democratic institutions. Canadians can expect that digital platforms will not foster or disseminate hate, violent extremism or criminal content." "There will be clear, meaningful penalties," it adds, "for violations of the laws and regulations that support these principles." As has become standard in such cases, the charter contains no definition of what constitutes "hate", making it a catchall for whatever the Canadian government deems politically inopportune. This is all exhaustingly familiar by now: Germany already has legislation that requires social media platforms to censor their users. Social media companies are obliged to delete or block any online "criminal offenses" within 24 hours of receipt of a user complaint; the German government can fine them up to 50 million euros for failing to comply with the law. France is working on it. The Digital Charter was launched the week after Canada signed the "Christchurch Call to Action -- yet another government-led drive for more censorship in the name of fighting "terrorist and violent extremist content online". Canada already has hate speech laws in its criminal code, according to which anyone who publicly "incites [or willfully promotes] hatred against any identifiable group" commits an indictable offence". The "identifiable group "includes "any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, national or ethnic origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or mental or physical disability." Section 318 prohibits advocating or promoting genocide. To some, however, the criminal code on hate speech is apparently not enough. In June, the House of Commons Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, in a report titled "Taking Action to End Online Hate," recommended that the Canadian government establish a "civil remedy" for those who claim that their human rights have been violated. After hearing a large number of witnesses, the majority of the Committee suggested that Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act -- or something similar to it -- be reinstated. Section 13 was a very controversial provision, repealed in 2013 under the Stephen Harper government after being criticized by free-speech advocates for enabling censorship on the internet. Section 13 stated that it was discriminatory for people to communicate via computer or on the internet "any matter that is likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt by reason of the fact that that person or those persons are identifiable on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination". [Emphasis added] In its report, the House of Commons Committee also made a number of other recommendations to the Canadian government for the fight against "online hatred", among them: Increasing funding for law enforcement, crown attorneys and judges to ensure sufficient training "on the importance, and the need to combat online hatred, including being sensitive to complainants". Improving data collection, so that the government ensures that, "we have a more complete understanding of the extent of hatred in Canada, particularly hatred that is directed online". This undertaking includes the establishment of "uniform pan-Canadian guidelines and standards for the collection and handling of hate crime data and hate incident data" and "a national database to retain and analyze hate crime and hate incident data". To do this, the committee asks that the government address that "members of marginalized groups... feel more comfortable reporting hate incidents and hate crimes directly to civil society organizations which reflect their community rather than law enforcement officials... resources need to be allocated to assist in the collection of data, by both governmental institutions as well as civil society organizations". Crucially, police forces and other "agents of the state" who work with hate crimes must "reflect the racial, religious, LGBTQ and general diversity of the populations they represent. Police forces, particularly their hate crimes units, must work collaboratively alongside civil society organizations..." A similar cooperative model with civil society organizations already exists in the UK, where the reportedly discredited civil society organization "Tell Mama", for instance, has operated in cooperation with British police. Furthermore, in order to "prevent online hate", the government "should educate the population as to what on the Internet constitutes hate". Unlike many other such initiatives, the committee wants the government to formulate a definition of what constitutes "hate", pointing out: "It is critical that this definition acknowledges persons who are disproportionately targeted by hate speech including but not limited to racial, indigenous, ethnic, linguistic, sexual orientation, gender identity, and religious groups". Finally, and in line with European developments, the committee asks the government "to establish requirements for online platforms and Internet service providers with regards to how they monitor and address incidents of hate speech, and the need to remove all posts that would constitute online hatred in a timely manner". As in Europe, the suggestion is that online platforms will be financially penalized if they fail to live up to the requirements: "Online platforms must have a duty to report regularly to users on data regarding online hate incidents (how many incidents were reported, what actions were taken/what content was removed, and how quickly the action was taken). Failure to properly report on online hate, must lead to significant monetary penalties for the online platform". Not everyone, however, agrees with the proposed strategy for the Canadian government. The Conservative party wrote a dissenting opinion in the report, according to which: "... many of the suggestions would, if implemented, have the dual impact of stifling free speech of those acting in good faith, while also serving to further radicalize bad actors by driving their communication out of the public square... Driving reprehensible ideas underground will not end them. It will merely prevent them from being debated and debunked." The Conservative members of the committee were against reintroducing the repealed section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act. They recommended instead that sanctions regarding hate crimes online or elsewhere should be dealt with under the appropriate sections of the Criminal Code. They also recommended that "The definition of 'hate' under the Criminal Code be limited to where a threat of violence, or incitement to violence, is directed against an identifiable group" and that "rather than attempting to control speech and ideas, the Government explore appropriate security measures to address all three elements of a threat: intent, capability and opportunity". The Conservative members conclude: "Far too many innocent individuals have been impacted by extremist violence in recent years. Sickening ideologies which encourage individuals to take the lives of their fellow human beings have faced a concerning proliferation both at home and around the world. Yet sadly, Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Members of this Committee have tried to use these troubling events as a way to bolster their political fortunes. They have tried to paint anyone who doesn't subscribe to their narrow value set as an extremist. This is dangerous. Conservatives believe that Canadian society is resilient precisely because it offers a big tent for all sort of views, but that we also must hold those accountable who distribute material that radicalizes individuals and leads to extremist violence". If the government proves sympathetic to the recommendations of the committee, the prospects for free speech in Canada look increasingly bleak.
  13. ink

    The Trump, Israel, Russia alliance

    Hi Vancity .... are you talking about this when you state 2 factions? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is the overview of the 36 Super Lodges ruling this planet with iron fist. Here they are: First Fraction: Democratic, liberal, humane, progressive and revolutionary. They want human economy, partly pretend to believe in God, their philosophy represents John Maynard Keynes (humane capitalism), and they believe in human rights: 1) Thomas Paine (USA): probably involved in sexual revolution. Gioele Magaldi, Edward Carpenter, Frank Podmore. Henry Havelock Ellis, Martha Beatrice Webb, Sidney James Webb, Herbert George Wells, George Bernard Shaw, Annie Besant, Virginia Woolf, Leonard Woolf, Emmeline Pankhurst, John Stuart Mill, Giuseppe Mazzini, Alexander Herzen, Ferdinand Lasalle, Jules Michelet, Louis Blanc, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Lajos Kossuth, John Bright, Richard Cobden, William E. Gladstone, John Rawls, Chinese Frater Tao. 2) Montesquieu (FRA): French speakers from around the world, involved in sexual revolution. 3) Arjuna Phoenix (INDIA): Gandhi, who was member of Thomas Paine as well. Members from India, Africa, western world. 4) Carrol of Carrollton: Fake Catholics probably. 5) Atlantis Aletheia: Nicolas Sarkozy, Pascal Lamy, Andreas Chrobog, Olaf Scholz, Kostantinos Karamanlis. 6) Benjamin Franklin (USA): well-known members list soon… 7) Christopher Columbus (North America, Canada): well-known members list soon… 8) Daath (ISRA): US-Israel Jews, Yitzhak Rabin. 9) Ecclesia (VATICAN): Catholic leaders of the religious structures, religion is undermined in the world and Vatican. 10) Ferdinand Lassalle (FRA): Francois Hollande, Gehard Schröder, Helmut Schmidt, A. J. Good – pastor, with members of Thomas Paine and France, Germany, adjacent countries. 11) Fraternité Verte (FRA): Francoise Hollande, members from France, Maghreb, Asian colonies, involved in sexual revolution. 12) Gheddurah (Near East): well-known members list soon… 13) Golden Eurasia (EUR): Neutral, has members from both camps. Has also the name Speculum Orientalis Occidentalisque. Angela Merkel, Vladimir Putin, Gehard Schröder, Peter Hartz. 14) Hiram Rhodes Reves (UK): involved in sexual revolution. Martin Luther King (organized march on Washington, was shot), Bayard Rustin. 15) Joannes (USA): involved in sexual revolution. American, English-speaking Catholics worldwide, and of other religions. Rome, Paris, London, Munich. 16) IBN Arabi (Middle East, North Africa): Islamic-Arab members, involved in sexual revolution. 17) Newton Keynes (UK): members of Thomas Paine and Montesquieu. John Rawls, Harold Wilson. 18) Simon Bolivar (Latin America): members of the Latin American region. Salvador Allende. Second Fraction: Anti-Democratic, oligarchic, elitist, technocratic, neo-aristocratic, illiberal, conservative, reactionary, wants tiny high-minded, alchemistic-spiritual elite. Wants apparent rule of the people, until their abolition. Against God. Pulls tactically back to morality and God. Despises human rights, because people in their eyes are only cattle (half animals). Combats humane capitalism. Represents Ludwig van Mises, Friedrich von Hajek, Milton Friedman: 1) Parsifal (GER): Angela Merkel, Gehard Schröder, Olaf Scholz, Axel Alfred Weber, Philipp Rösler, Peter Hartz, Mariano Rajoy. 2) Valhalla (GER): Angela Merkel, Martin Winterkorn, Jürgen Fitsche, Heinrich Hiesinger, Michael Fuchs, Mariano Rajoy. 3) The Ring (GER): Wolfgang Schäuble (Master of the chair), Jean Claude Trichet, Manuel Valls, Andreas Dombret, Jens Weidmann, Thomas Enders, René Obermann, Dieter Zetsche, Klaus Kleinfeld, Michael Diekmann, Manuel Valls. 4) Edmund Burke (UK): Tony Blair, George Bush senior, David Cameron, Mark Carney (Governor of the Bank of England), George Osborne, Nicolas Sarkozy, Manuel Valls, Gaston Thorn, Axel Alfred Weber, A. W. Clausen (World Bank), Margaret Thatcher, MI6 Director Maurice Oldfield, CIA director W. Colby, Alec Douglas-Home. 5) Leviathan (UK): Anglo American members, George Bush senior, Joe Kaeser, Heinrich Hiesinger, Madeleine Albright. 6) Joseph de Maistre (CH, then new founded by Lenin): Europe, Russia, FRA colonies, Wolfang Schäuble, Paul Achleitner, Gustáv Husák. 7) Pan-Europa (AUT): Very powerful European Loge, Jean Claude Trichet, Christine Lagarde, Nicolas Sarkozy, Gaston Thor, Karl Otto Pöhl, Mariano Rajoy. 8) Three Eyes (USA): Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Bush senior, Bill Clinton, Christine Lagarde, Gaston Thorn, Gerald Ford, Andreas Dombret, Martin Winterkorn, Karl Otto Pöhl, Philipp Rösler, M.F. chief J. de Larosière, Ted Kennedy, MI6 Director Maurice Oldfield, P.M. Eyskens, MI5 Director Michael Hanley, and former Belgian P.M. Eyskens, CIA director W. Colby, Alec Douglas-Home, Mason Edward Heath, Stanley Kubrick, Neil Armstrong, R. R. Bowie, James Cornford, George S. Franklin, Gerard C.Smith, Tadashi Yamamoto, Yasumasa Tanaka, Erwin Scheuch, Karl Kaiser, S. M. Lipset, John Meisel, Osama bin Laden – moved to Geburah and Hathor Pentalpha, Antonis Samaras, Madeleine Albright, Condoleezza Rice. 9) Amun (JORD): Members from near-East, North Africa, but also from Three Eyes and Jospeh de Maistre. Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, Yasser Arafat. 10) White Eagle (USA): Three Eyes, Geburah and Edmund Burke members. George Bush Sr., A. W. Clausen, George P. Schultz, M. Friedman, F. von Hayek, Paul Volcker, Alan Greenspan, W. H. Webster, Alexander Haig, W. J. Casey, Geoffrey Howe, David Owen, Shirley Williams, Roy Jenkins, Quentin Hogg, Nigel Lawson, R. Leigh-Pemberton, Casper Weinberger, F. Carlucci, Leonore C. Annenberg, Walter Annenberg, Lew Wasserman, Francesco Cossiga, Jacques Chirac, Wilfred Martens, W. Wriston, Michael Leeden. 11) Tao Lodge (CHIN): Members Three Eyes, Chinese and Far Eastern Members, Deng Xiaoping. 12) Hathor Pentalpha (USA): PNAC & ISIS. George Bush Senior and Junior, Jeb Bush, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Al Baghdadi, Samuel Huntington, Donald Kagan, Robert Kagan, Douglas Freith, Richard Dick Cheney, Osama bin Laden, Gehard Schröder, Donald Rumsfeld, Irving Kristol, William Kristol, Dan Quayle, Paul Wolfowitz, Condoleezza Rice, Richard Perle, Karl Rove, Michael Leeden, Bill Bennett. From Oman: Qabus bin Said Al Said. From Bahrain: Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa. From Saudi Arabia: Abd Allah Ibn Abd al-Aziz Al Saud, Salman bin Abd al-Aziz Al Saud, Muqrin bin Abd al-Aziz Al Saud, Khalid al-Faysal, Nawwaf bin Abd al-Aziz Al Saud, Muhammed bin Nayef bin Abd al-Zizu Al Saud. From Iran: Alt Akbar Hashemi Rafsandschani, Mohammed Momen, Gholam-Hossein Mohseni-Ejei, Heydar Moslehi, Mahmoud Alavi, Valiollah Seif, Katar: Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani. From Israel: Ariel Sharon, David Klein, Stanley Fischer, Moshe Ya’alon. From the European Union/Europe: Jan Peter Balkenende, Klaus Kleinfeld, José Maria Aznar, Aleksander Kwasniewski, Nicolas Sarkozy, Marcello Pera, Antonio Martino, Joe Kaeser. Other members in the Middle East. Hathor (Egyptian Goddess) means Isis. Penta = Star of David = Five Stars = five alphas = Pentalpha. 13) Babel Tower: Europe Lodge, Jean Claude Trichet. 14) Compass Star-Rose/Rose Stella Ventorum (USA): name refers to the NATO logo. Members of the military-industrial complex. Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, Henry Kissinger, Manuel Valls, Andreas Dombret, Karl Otto Pöhl, Joe Kaeser, Bill Gates, Manuel Valls. 15) Geburah (USA): Near Hathor Pentalpha, oil companies, military industrial complex. PNAC 911, Bush, Erdogan, Nicolas Sarkozy, Joe Kaeser, Heinrich Hiesinger, Osama bin Laden. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ More to be read at this link: 36 Illuminati-Masonic Super/Ur-Lodges Rule the World – Towards Its Demise
  14. Ran out of like again .... shit concept to have within a forum .... Your post make me smile thank you
  15. Tell me "off ramp" .... are you part of the Palladian Order?
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