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On 6/5/2019 at 12:18 PM, muir said:

 

@Grumpy Owl

 

The generation of contrails depends on a number of factors.

 

Engine type, humidity and temperature to name but three. Temperature and humidity can vary significantly both laterally and vertically. So for example, two identical aircraft flying at very slightly different altitudes can have completely different contrails - or none. As an aircraft flies, its contrail may sometimes appear to come on and off - again due to rapid atmospheric changes at its altitude.

 

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

I get the whole idea that these 'trails' are affected by atmospheric conditions, but I just find it curious that I see two high altitude planes leaving trails while another one doesn't, all within the space of a few minutes. And this is not the first time I've observed this either.

 

AWACS and C-17 Globemaster in formation - What the Hell are they spraying?

 

High Bypass Turbofan Jet Engines, Geoengineering, And The Contrail Lie

September 28, 2017
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Refuting the "its just condensation trails" official lie is easily done if specific fundamental facts are understood and remembered. The short article and 7 minute video tutorial below provide essential information for debunking the "condensation trail" false narrative.

We are told by all "official sources" that the sun blocking weather disrupting jet dispersed trails we see in our skies are only "condensation trails". The "condensation trail" official narrative is perhaps the greatest lie the power structure has ever perpetrated to pacify the masses into ignoring the immense threat posed by climate engineering operations occurring over our heads on a daily basis. Without knowing any of the related science facts on this issue, anyone with a sense of reason should be able to determine the fact that our skies are being sprayed. Trails that are turned on and off, grid patterns one day and nothing the next (in spite of often identical atmospheric conditions). Witnessing one jet leaving a trail from horizon to horizon adjacent to another jet at a similar altitude that leaves virtually nothing. Trails of completely dissimilar compositions and colors. There are misaligned plumes behind some jets (usually lower flying military tankers) that do not match the alignment of the engines themselves. This causes some of the sprayed dispursion trails to shoot out slightly to one side of the aircraft (not parallel due to misaligned nozzles). There is also of course the fact that all climate science circles and governments around the globe are clamoring for climate engineering to be deployed (though none in these communities will yet admit to the truth, geoengineering was fully deployed decades ago). Our society has been well trained to accept the official narrative on countless issues which is how those in power hide their crimes in plain site. The fact that official explanations for what we see in our skies are completely contrary to deductive reasoning and the laws of physics has, so far, seemed not to matter to the majority of the population.

Again, we are told by all official sources, agencies, and elected officials, that all we are seeing in our skies are "condensation trails". They say that it is perfectly normal for this "condensation" so stay in the sky for hours or days, widening and spreading until whole horizons are completely blotted out. What we see is exactly what they say they want to do with solar radiation management (SRM), but they assure us that geoengineering is not actually going on, yet. Those that choose to believe these blatant lies simply do not yet want to wake up. Here is the fact of the matter, all commercial jet aircraft and all military tankers are fitted with a type of jet engine that is by design nearly incapable of producing any condensation trail except under the most extreme circumstances, the high bypass turbofan. 

 

7 minute high bypass turbofan tutorial

 

 

 

 

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On ‎4‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 11:49 AM, Rupert Ugo said:

 

 

 

 

These pictures are from the airplane testing PDF reports. They are used for ballast with water being pumped around the containers to simulate passenger movement. They have been deceptively lifted and wrongly identified. Perhaps next time you read something you should consider that the source is MORE dodgy than the supposed mainstream ones automatically dismissed.

 

 

 

Yep they are ballast for flight testing

 

Of course It doesn't help when trying to convince others of this, that Aircraft engineers and pilots  intent on mocking the chemtrailers  put hazard symbols on some tanks or create false "chemtrail spray" kit placards and place them on the instrument panel - then put the photos on social media - in the hope it gets scooped up.

 

I will see if I can find the A380 one with hazard warnings

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2 hours ago, Eldnah said:

 

Yep they are ballast for flight testing

 

Of course It doesn't help when trying to convince others of this, that Aircraft engineers and pilots  intent on mocking the chemtrailers  put hazard symbols on some tanks or create false "chemtrail spray" kit placards and place them on the instrument panel - then put the photos on social media - in the hope it gets scooped up.

 

I will see if I can find the A380 one with hazard warnings

 

Yep again! You can see examples of these ballast tanks in an aircraft in the Boeing Museum in Seattle.

 

(They are not labelled "chemtrails" - probably just to hide what they really are from people...!)

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  • 100 years of patent applications concerning weather modification

  • 0462795 – July 16, 1891 – Method Of Producing Rain-Fall

  • 1103490 – August 6, 1913 – Rain-Maker

  • 1225521 – September 4, 1915 – Protecting From Poisonous Gas In Warfare

  • 1338343 – April 27, 1920 – Process And Apparatus For The Production of Intense Artificial Clouds, Fogs, or Mists

  • 1619183 – March 1, 1927 – Process of Producing Smoke Clouds From Moving Aircraft

  • 1665267 – April 10, 1928 – Process of Producing Artificial Fogs

  • 1892132 – December 27, 1932 – Atomizing Attachment For Airplane Engine Exhausts

  • 1928963 – October 3, 1933 – Electrical System And Method

  • 1957075 – May 1, 1934 – Airplane Spray Equipment

  • 2097581 – November 2, 1937 – Electric Stream Generator – Referenced in 3990987

  • 2409201 – October 15, 1946 – Smoke Producing Mixture

  • 2476171 – July 18, 1945 – Smoke Screen Generator

  • 2480967 – September 6, 1949 – Aerial Discharge Device

  • 2550324 – April 24, 1951 – Process For Controlling Weather

  • 2582678 – June 15, 1952 – Material Disseminating Apparatus For Airplanes

  • 2614083 – October 14, 1952 – Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture

  • 2633455 – March 31, 1953 – Smoke Generator

  • 2688069 – August 31, 1954 – Steam Generator – Referenced in 3990987

  • 2721495 – October 25, 1955 – Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere

  • 2730402 – January 10, 1956 – Controllable Dispersal Device

  • 2801322 – July 30, 1957 – Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel – Referenced in 3990987

  • 2881335 – April 7, 1959 – Generation of Electrical Fields

  • 2908442 – October 13, 1959 – Method For Dispersing Natural Atmospheric Fogs And Clouds

  • 2986360 – May 30, 1962 – Aerial Insecticide Dusting Device

  • 2963975 – December 13, 1960 – Cloud Seeding Carbon Dioxide Bullet

  • 3126155 – March 24, 1964 – Silver Iodide Cloud Seeding Generator

  • 3127107 – March 31, 1964 – Generation of Ice-Nucleating Crystals

  • 3131131 – April 28, 1964 – Electrostatic Mixing in Microbial Conversions

  • 3174150 – March 16, 1965 – Self-Focusing Antenna System

  • 3234357 – February 8, 1966 – Electrically Heated Smoke Producing Device

  • 3274035 – September 20, 1966 – Metallic Composition For Production of Hydroscopic Smoke

  • 3300721 – January 24, 1967 – Means For Communication Through a Layer of Ionized Gases

  • 3313487 – April 11, 1967 – Cloud Seeding Apparatus

  • 3338476 – August 29, 1967 – Heating Device For Use With Aerosol Containers

  • 3410489 – November 12, 1968 – Automatically Adjustable Airfoil Spray System With Pump

  • 3429507 – February 25, 1969 – Rainmaker

  • 3432208 – November 7, 1967 – Fluidized Particle Dispenser

  • 3441214 – April 29, 1969 – Method And Apparatus For Seeding Clouds

  • 3445844 – May 20, 1969 – Trapped Electromagnetic Radiation Communications System

  • 3456880 – July 22, 1969 – Method Of Producing Precipitation From The Atmosphere

  • 3518670 June 30, 1970 – Artificial Ion Cloud

  • 3534906 – October 20, 1970 – Control of Atmospheric Particles

  • 3545677 – December 8, 1970 – Method of Cloud Seeding

  • 3564253 – February 16, 1971 – System And Method For Irradiation Of Planet Surface Areas

  • 3587966 – June 28, 1971 – Freezing Nucleation

  • 3601312 – August 24, 1971 – Methods of Increasing The Likelihood oF Precipitation By The Artificial Introduction Of Sea Water Vapor Into The Atmosphere Winward Of An Air Lift Region

  • 3608810 – September 28, 1971 – Methods of Treating Atmospheric Conditions

  • 3608820– September 20, 1971 – Treatment of Atmospheric Conditions by Intermittent Dispensing of Materials Therein

  • 3613992 – October 19, 1971 – Weather Modification Method

  • 3630950 – December 28, 1971 – Combustible Compositions For Generating Aerosols, Particularly Suitable For Cloud Modification And Weather Control And Aerosolization Process

  • USRE29142 – May 22, 1973 – Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process

  • 3659785 – December 8, 1971 – Weather Modification Utilizing Microencapsulated Material

  • 3666176 – March 3, 1972 – Solar Temperature Inversion Device

  • 3677840 – July 18, 1972 – Pyrotechnics Comprising Oxide of Silver For Weather Modification Use

  • 3722183 – March 27, 1973 – Device For Clearing Impurities From The Atmosphere

  • 3769107 – October 30, 1973 – Pyrotechnic Composition For Generating Lead Based Smoke

  • 3784099 – January 8, 1974 – Air Pollution Control Method

  • 3785557 – January 15, 1974 – Cloud Seeding System

  • 3795626 – March 5, 1974 – Weather Modification Process

  • 3808595 – April 30, 1974 – Chaff Dispensing System

  • 3813875 – June 4, 1974 – Rocket Having Barium Release System to Create Ion Clouds In The Upper Atmosphere

  • 3835059 – September 10, 1974 – Methods of Generating Ice Nuclei Smoke Particles For Weather Modification And Apparatus Therefore

  • 3835293 – September 10, 1974 – Electrical Heating Apparatus For Generating Super Heated Vapors

  • 3877642 – April 15, 1975 – Freezing Nucleant

  • 3882393 – May 6, 1975 – Communications System Utilizing Modulation of The Characteristic Polarization of The Ionosphere

  • 3896993 – July 29, 1975 – Process For Local Modification of Fog And Clouds For Triggering Their Precipitation And For Hindering The Development of Hail Producing Clouds

  • 3899129 – August 12, 1975 – Apparatus for generating ice nuclei smoke particles for weather modification

  • 3899144 – August 12, 1975 – Powder contrail generation

  • 3940059 – February 24, 1976 – Method For Fog Dispersion

  • 3940060 – February 24, 1976 – Vortex Ring Generator

  • 3990987 – November 9, 1976 – Smoke generator

  • 3992628 – November 16, 1976 – Countermeasure system for laser radiation

  • 3994437 – November 30, 1976 – Broadcast dissemination of trace quantities of biologically active chemicals

  • 4042196 – August 16, 1977 – Method and apparatus for triggering a substantial change in earth characteristics and measuring earth changes

  • RE29,142 – February 22, 1977 – Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process

  • 4035726 – July 12, 1977 – Method of controlling and/or improving high-latitude and other communications or radio wave surveillance systems by partial control of radio wave et al

  • 4096005 – June 20, 1978 – Pyrotechnic Cloud Seeding Composition

  • 4129252 – December 12, 1978 – Method and apparatus for production of seeding materials

  • 4141274 – February 27, 1979 – Weather modification automatic cartridge dispenser

  • 4167008 – September 4, 1979 – Fluid bed chaff dispenser

  • 4347284 – August 31, 1982 – White cover sheet material capable of reflecting ultraviolet rays

  • 4362271 – December 7, 1982 – Procedure for the artificial modification of atmospheric precipitation as well as compounds with a dimethyl sulfoxide base for use in carrying out said procedure

  • 4402480 – September 6, 1983 – Atmosphere modification satellite

  • 4412654 – November 1, 1983 – Laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying of liquids

  • 4415265 – November 15, 1983 – Method and apparatus for aerosol particle absorption spectroscopy

  • 4470544 – September 11, 1984 – Method of and Means for weather modification

  • 4475927 – October 9, 1984 – Bipolar Fog Abatement System

  • 4600147 – July 15, 1986 – Liquid propane generator for cloud seeding apparatus

  • 4633714 – January 6, 1987 – Aerosol particle charge and size analyzer

  • 4643355 – February 17, 1987 – Method and apparatus for modification of climatic conditions

  • 4653690 – March 31, 1987 – Method of producing cumulus clouds

  • 4684063 – August 4, 1987 – Particulates generation and removal

  • 4686605 – August 11, 1987 – HAARP Patent / EASTLUND PATENT – Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth’s atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere

  • 4704942 – November 10, 1987 – Charged Aerosol

  • 4712155 – December 8, 1987 – Method and apparatus for creating an artificial electron cyclotron heating region of plasma

  • 4744919 – May 17, 1988 – Method of dispersing particulate aerosol tracer

  • 4766725 – August 30, 1988 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor

  • 4829838 – May 16, 1989 – Method and apparatus for the measurement of the size of particles entrained in a gas

  • 4836086 – June 6, 1989 – Apparatus and method for the mixing and diffusion of warm and cold air for dissolving fog

  • 4873928 – October 17, 1989 – Nuclear-sized explosions without radiation

  • 4948257 – August 14, 1990 – Laser optical measuring device and method for stabilizing fringe pattern spacing

  • 1338343– August 14, 1990 – Process and Apparatus for the production of intense artificial Fog

  • 4999637 – March 12, 1991 – Creation of artificial ionization clouds above the earth

  • 5003186 – March 26, 1991 – Stratospheric Welsbach seeding for reduction of global warming

  • 5005355 – April 9, 1991 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor

  • 5038664 – August 13, 1991 – Method for producing a shell of relativistic particles at an altitude above the earths surface

  • 5041760 – August 20, 1991 – Method and apparatus for generating and utilizing a compound plasma configuration

  • 5041834 – August 20, 1991 – Artificial ionospheric mirror composed of a plasma layer which can be tilted

  • 5056357 – October 15, 1991- Acoustic method for measuring properties of a mobile medium

  • 5059909 – October 22, 1991 – Determination of particle size and electrical charge

  • 5104069 – April 14, 1992 – Apparatus and method for ejecting matter from an aircraft

  • 5110502 – May 5, 1992 – Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor

  • 5156802 – October 20, 1992 – Inspection of fuel particles with acoustics

  • 5174498 – December 29, 1992 – Cloud Seeding

  • 5148173 – September 15, 1992 – Millimeter wave screening cloud and method

  • 5242820 – September 7, 1993 – Army Mycoplasma Patent Patent

  • 5245290 – September 14, 1993 – Device for determining the size and charge of colloidal particles by measuring electroacoustic effect

  • 5286979 – February 15, 1994 – Process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation using dispersed melanin

  • 5296910 – March 22, 1994 – Method and apparatus for particle analysis

  • 5327222 – July 5, 1994 – Displacement information detecting apparatus

  • 5357865 – October 25, 1994 – Method of cloud seeding

  • 5360162 – November 1, 1994 – Method and composition for precipitation of atmospheric water

  • 5383024 – January 17, 1995 – Optical wet steam monitor

  • 5425413 – June 20, 1995 – Method to hinder the formation and to break-up overhead atmospheric inversions, enhance ground level air circulation and improve urban air quality

  • 5434667 – July 18, 1995 – Characterization of particles by modulated dynamic light scattering

  • 5441200 – August 15, 1995 – Tropical cyclone disruption

  • 5486900 – January 23, 1996 – Measuring device for amount of charge of toner and image forming apparatus having the measuring device

  • 5556029 – September 17, 1996 – Method of hydrometeor dissipation (clouds)

  • 5628455 – May 13, 1997 – Method and apparatus for modification of supercooled fog

  • 5631414 – May 20, 1997 – Method and device for remote diagnostics of ocean-atmosphere system state

  • 5639441 – June 17, 1997 – Methods for fine particle formation

  • 5762298 – June 9, 1998 – Use of artificial satellites in earth orbits adaptively to modify the effect that solar radiation would otherwise have on earth’s weather

  • 5800481 – September 1, 1998 – Thermal excitation of sensory resonances

  • 5912396 – June 15, 1999 – System and method for remediation of selected atmospheric conditions

  • 5922976 – July 13, 1999 – Method of measuring aerosol particles using automated mobility-classified aerosol detector

  • 5949001 – September 7, 1999 – Method for aerodynamic particle size analysis

  • 5984239 – November 16, 1999 – Weather modification by artificial satellite

  • 6025402 – February 15, 2000 – Chemical composition for effectuating a reduction of visibility obscuration, and a detoxifixation of fumes and chemical fogs in spaces of fire origin

  • 6030506 – February 29, 2000 – Preparation of independently generated highly reactive chemical species

  • 6034073 – March 7, 2000 – Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity

  • 6045089 – April 4, 2000 – Solar-powered airplane

  • 6056203 – May 2, 2000 – Method and apparatus for modifying supercooled clouds

  • 6110590 – August 29, 2000 – Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same

  • 6263744 – July 24, 2001 – Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector

  • 6281972 – August 28, 2001 – Method and apparatus for measuring particle-size distribution

  • 6315213 – November 13, 2001 – Method of modifying weather

  • 6382526 – May 7, 2002 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers

  • 6408704 – June 25, 2002 – Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus

  • 6412416 – July 2, 2002 – Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method

  • 6520425 – February 18, 2003 – Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers

  • 6539812 – April 1, 2003 – System for measuring the flow-rate of a gas by means of ultrasound

  • 6553849 – April 29, 2003 – Electrodynamic particle size analyzer

  • 6569393 – May 27, 2003 – Method And Device For Cleaning The Atmosphere

  • 0056705 A1 – March 17, 2005 – Weather Modification by Royal Rainmaking Technology

  • 6890497 – May 10, 2005 – Method For Extracting And Sequestering Carbon Dioxide

  • 7965488 – November 9, 2007 – Methods Of Removing Aerosols From The Atmosphere

  • 8048309 –  August 28, 2008 – Seawater-Based Carbon Dioxide Disposal

  • 8012453 – October 27, 2008 – Carbon Sequestration And Production Of Hydrogen And Hydride

  • 7645326 – January 12, 2010 – RFID environmental manipulation

  • 7655193 – February 2, 2010 – Apparatus For Extracting And Sequestering Carbon Dioxide

  • 8079545 – December 20, 2011 – Ground based Manipulation and Control of Aerial Vehicle during nonflying operations

  • 0117003 – October 5, 2012 – Geoengineering Method Of Business Using Carbon Counterbalance Credits – alternate link

  • 8373962 – February 12, 2013 – Charged seed cloud as a method for increasing particle collisions and for scavenging airborne

Some of these applications look interesting

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4 hours ago, peter said:
  • 100 years of patent applications concerning weather modification

Some of these applications look interesting

 

 

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Up Close Plane spraying from nozzles in wingtips on and off May 2014

 

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aluminium being found more in the environment

 

also it makes 6 compounds with glyphosate which are toxic:

 

World-Renowned Doctor Addresses Climate Engineering Dangers

 

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Environ Health. 2016; 15: 7.
Published online 2016 Jan 19. doi: 10.1186/s12940-016-0089-0
PMCID: PMC4717532
PMID: 26786592

Assessing the direct occupational and public health impacts of solar radiation management with stratospheric aerosols

 

Abstract

Geoengineering is the deliberate large-scale manipulation of environmental processes that affects the Earth’s climate, in an attempt to counteract the effects of climate change. Injecting sulfate aerosol precursors and designed nanoparticles into the stratosphere to (i.e., solar radiation management [SRM]), has been suggested as one approach to geoengineering. Although much is being done to unravel the scientific and technical challenges around geoengineering, there have been few efforts to characterize the potential human health impacts of geoengineering, particularly with regards to SRM approaches involving stratospheric aerosols. This paper explores this information gap. Using available evidence, we describe the potential direct occupational and public health impacts of exposures to aerosols likely to be used for SRM, including environmental sulfates, black carbon, metallic aluminum, and aluminum oxide aerosols. We speculate on possible health impacts of exposure to one promising SRM material, barium titanate, using knowledge of similar nanomaterials. We also explore current regulatory efforts to minimize exposure to these toxicants. Our analysis suggests that adverse public health impacts may reasonably be expected from SRM via deployment of stratospheric aerosols. Little is known about the toxicity of some likely candidate aerosols, and there is no consensus regarding acceptable levels for public exposure to these materials. There is also little infrastructure in place to evaluate potential public health impacts in the event that stratospheric aerosols are deployed for solar radiation management. We offer several recommendations intended to help characterize the potential occupation and public health impacts of SRM, and suggest that a comprehensive risk assessment effort is needed before this approach to geoengineering receives further consideration.

Keywords: Climate change, Geoengineering, Solar radiation management, Aerosols, Exposure, Human health

Background

Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, human influence on the climate system has become clear [1, 2]. Because human activities have become significant geological forces, the term “anthropocene” has been applied to the current geological epoch, which began in the eighteenth century [3]. The United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has forecast that if human activity and world development continue unimpeded, average surface temperatures could rise as much as 4.8 °C by 2100 [1, 2, 4]. The lack of success to date in efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions sufficiently has prompted attention to the possibility of counteracting the effects of emissions through the intentional manipulation of global-scale Earth system processes – a process referred to as “geoengineering” [5]

The concept of geoengineering is not new, and dates back to at least 1965 [6]. However, the term geoengineering as applied in its current context was introduced in 1977 [7]. Geoengineering approaches include solar radiation management, or SRM, and carbon dioxide removal (CDR) [5]. SRM techniques attempt to offset effects of increased greenhouse gas concentrations by reducing the proportion of incoming short wavelength solar radiation that is absorbed or reflected by the earth’s atmosphere (Fig. 1) [8]. Proposed SRM techniques include stratospheric aerosols, reflective satellites, whitening of the clouds, whitening of built structures and increasing plant reflectivity (Fig. 2) [5]. All SRM deployment techniques require a global approach since localized deployment will not produce sufficient effects. Importantly, SRM approaches to managing climate change require initial and ongoing addition of aerosols to the atmosphere, with increasingly greater additions as emissions of GHGs rise, given the risk of sudden and potentially catastrophic warming if aerosol levels are not maintained. Proposed CDR approaches include afforestation/reforestation, direct air carbon dioxide (CO2) capture/storage, manufacturing carbonate minerals using silicate rocks and CO2 from the air, accelerated weathering of rocks, ocean alkalinity addition and ocean fertilization (Fig. 2) [5].

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Final report of the Advisory Committee on Weather Control.

Language(s): English
Published: [Washington, D.C. : The Committee?], 1958.
Subjects: Weather control.
Rain-making.
Note: Committee was the result of federal legislation and was set up to study public and private experiments in weather modification.
Volume II of the two volume final report contains detailed technical reports which form the basis, in part, for the findings and recommendations in volume I.
Errata sheet inserted.
Physical Description: 2 v. : ill., maps ; 27 cm.
Locate a Print Version: Find in a library

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Limited (search only)v.1 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Limited (search only)v.1-2(1957)

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

 

https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/011395939

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"Owning the Weather" for Military Use

by Michel Chossudovsky

www.globalresearch.ca 27 September 2004

 

 

Environmental warfare is defined as the intentional modification or manipulation of the natural ecology, such as climate and weather, earth systems such as the ionosphere, magnetosphere, tectonic plate system, and/or the triggering of seismic events (earthquakes) to cause intentional physical, economic, and psycho-social, and physical destruction to an intended target geophysical or population location, as part of strategic or tactical war." (Eco News)

 

What are the underlying causes of extreme weather instability, which has ravaged every major region of the World in the course of the last few years?  

Hurricanes and tropical storms have ravaged the Caribbean. Central Asia and the Middle East are afflicted by drought. West Africa is facing the biggest swarm of locusts in more than a decade. Four destructive hurricanes and a tropical rain storm  Alex, Ivan, Frances, Charley and Jeanne have occurred in a sequence, within a short period of time. Unprecedented in hurricane history in the Caribbean, the island of Grenada was completely devastated: 37 people died and roughly two-thirds of the island's 100,000 inhabitants have been left homeless; in Haiti, more than two thousand people have died and tens of thousands are homeless. The Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Cuba, the Bahamas and Florida have also been devastated. In the US, the damage in several Southern states including Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi and the Carolinas is the highest in US history.

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO201A.html

 

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Iran VP claims country's drought is part of West's weather war on Islamic republic

By Daily Mail Reporter

Published: 00:29, 18 July 2012 | Updated: 00:34, 18 July 2012

The head of Iran's cultural heritage and tourism organization believes that in addition to economic sanctions, the West is launching another kind of 'soft war' on the Islamic republic.

Speaking at a ceremony to introduce the nation's new meteorological department chief, Hassan Mousavi said that he was 'suspicious about the drought in the southern part of the country.'

He went on to accuse the West as using 'technology' to influence the nation's climate, saying sand storms, droughts, and other extreme weather were the result of an unspecified method of war.

‘The world arrogance and colonist (term used by Iranian authorities to label the West) are influencing Iran's climate conditions using technology,' Mr Mousavi was quoted as saying by the Fars news agency, according to the AFP.

‘The drought is an acute issue and soft war is completely evident... This level of drought is not normal.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2175110/Iran-VP-claims-countrys-drought-Wests-weather-war-Islamic-republic.html

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3 hours ago, muir said:

Up Close Plane spraying from nozzles in wingtips on and off May 2014

 

 

The nozzles you can see are fuel dump nozzles

 

Its footage - most if not all of which appears to be aircraft testing - but a couple could be in service types with problems - Of aircraft dumping fuel.

 

Its not proof of chemtrails - its proof aircraft dump fuel

 

To avoid unnecessary posts demanding why and then expressing doubts because of the enviroment

 

On test When, where and how much is regulated - its not even a light shower of rain by the time it lands

 

Dumping fuel is generally an emergency procedure a (simplified) example would be a problem such as an engine problem developing on take off -

The Plane needs to return as soon as possible - but its not uncommon that take off weight is higher than landing weight so rather than orbit to burn off fuel with a engine problem it can dump it.

 

 

 

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Spy agencies fund climate research in hunt for weather weapon, scientist fears

This article is more than 4 years old

US expert Alan Robock raises concern over who would control climate-altering technologies if research is paid for by intelligence agencies

Ian Sample, science editor, in San Jose

 

Sun 15 Feb 2015 11.04 GMT

A senior US scientist has expressed concern that the intelligence services are funding climate change research to learn if new technologies could be used as potential weapons.

Alan Robock, a climate scientist at Rutgers University in New Jersey, has called on secretive government agencies to be open about their interest in radical work that explores how to alter the world’s climate.

Robock, who has contributed to reports for the intergovernmental panel on climate change (IPCC), uses computer models to study how stratospheric aerosols could cool the planet in the way massive volcanic eruptions do.

But he was worried about who would control such climate-altering technologies should they prove effective, he told the American Association for the Advancement of Science in San Jose.

 

Last week, the National Academy of Sciences published a two-volume report on different approaches to tackling climate change. One focused on means to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, the other on ways to change clouds or the Earth’s surface to make them reflect more sunlight out to space.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/feb/15/spy-agencies-fund-climate-research-weather-weapon-claim

 

CIA Opens Center on Climate Change and National Security

September 25, 2009


The Central Intelligence Agency is launching The Center on Climate Change and National Security as the focal point for its work on the subject. The Center is a small unit led by senior specialists from the Directorate of Intelligence and the Directorate of Science and Technology.

Its charter is not the science of climate change, but the national security impact of phenomena such as desertification, rising sea levels, population shifts, and heightened competition for natural resources. The Center will provide support to American policymakers as they negotiate, implement, and verify international agreements on environmental issues. That is something the CIA has done for years. “Decision makers need information and analysis on the effects climate change can have on security. The CIA is well positioned to deliver that intelligence,” said Director Leon Panetta.

The Center will assume responsibility for coordinating with Intelligence Community partners on the review and declassification of imagery and other data that could be of use to scientists in their own climate-related research. This effort draws on imagery and other information that is collected in any event, assisting the US scientific community without a large commitment of resources.

The new Center does more than bring together in a single place expertise on an important national security topic—the effect environmental factors can have on political, economic, and social stability overseas. It will also be aggressive in outreach to academics and think tanks working the issue. The goal is a powerful asset recognized throughout our government, and beyond, for its knowledge and insight.

 
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On 6/21/2019 at 8:11 PM, muir said:

Up Close Plane spraying from nozzles in wingtips on and off May 2014

 

 

Hi M

 

I was talking to a freind who has a family member who flies for Cathay Pacific, they said when the planes are waiting and being refuelled, they notice fuel being added at one side of the plane and on the other side being taken out again, so get this,

 

It is known that a plane carries enough fuel so if needed it can return back to where it came from on long haul flights, so it would be possible for them to carry other liquids that can be ejected through any bypass jet engine, I am not saying they are doing this but it is possible.

 

If so the passengers would not see this like the snorkel which can dump fuel, because the trails form well behind the plane during flight.

 

So my question is, how much fuel do they actually carry for safety and flight time, could they carry other liquids and or chemicals to use as cloud seeding.

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I knew someone who worked in the Load Control team at Gatwick. They made the calculations of cargo weight and its distribution in the hold. This data was essential for the pilot to know how much weight the flight was carrying and for fuel calculations.

He said financial considerations were so tight that there is no way a commercial airline would or could carry extra weight, and absolutely no way this could be smuggled on without the flight crew knowing. Otherwise take-off weights, fuel consumption, etc. would be incorrect and the pilot would know as soon as he started to reach decision speed, if not before.
 

A pilot could surely give more detailed background information describing his/her responsibilities and procedures before, during and after a flight thus describing why commercial flights have no part in chemtrailing.

 

 

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So what I am saying is,

 

Each aircraft is desined to carry a maximum weight, if there is fewer passengers and cargo aboard they could if need be still carry more fuel to compensate for the lack of people/cargo.

 

My freind said the pilots do not really know why they do these filling emptying at the same time,

 

Maybe flushing the tanks? auxilliary tanks maybe, how many and where at?

 

Maybe some other liquids in suspension which will not be there once they reach their destination?

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27 minutes ago, The Apprentice said:

So what I am saying is,

 

Each aircraft is desined to carry a maximum weight, if there is fewer passengers and cargo aboard they could if need be still carry more fuel to compensate for the lack of people/cargo.

 

My freind said the pilots do not really know why they do these filling emptying at the same time,

 

Maybe flushing the tanks? auxilliary tanks maybe, how many and where at?

 

Maybe some other liquids in suspension which will not be there once they reach their destination?

 

What planes does he fly? Which airports? I expect he could ask what the procedure is for. Pilots are bight people and not known for not being inquisitive, especially as it affects the machine they're actually going to fly.

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4 minutes ago, Janet W said:

 

What planes does he fly? Which airports? I expect he could ask what the procedure is for. Pilots are bight people and not known for not being inquisitive, especially as it affects the machine they're actually going to fly.

 

 

Big birds, Long Haul, Cathay, in and out of Hong Kong.

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On ‎6‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 11:35 PM, Eldnah said:

The nozzles you can see are fuel dump nozzles

 

Dumping fuel is generally an emergency procedure a (simplified) example would be a problem such as an engine problem developing on take off -

The Plane needs to return as soon as possible - but its not uncommon that take off weight is higher than landing weight so rather than orbit to burn off fuel with a engine problem it can dump it.

 

Exactly, but this is the land of woo, so don't expect anyone to actually acknowledge this. It's more wooooey to believe in the chemtrail shite than what really happens.

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On 7/10/2019 at 11:26 AM, The Apprentice said:

See artificial clouds and or vapour being made by a Russian modified MIG jet engine, by adding chemicals to create clouds basically.

 

https://youtu.be/_0eTXG39i4o

i guess sceptics missed this one......hmmm wonder why that would  be 🤔🤔

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