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Hi, I’m new here.

 

I’ve been reading a lot about the various conspiracy theories, and have noticed that they are all seem to be based on right wing philosophy/s. Is that true?

 

If so, why is that?

 

And are there any conspiracy theories that are not based on right wing philosophy/s?

 

This is not a troll post—I’m genuinely interested in knowing the answer.

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all that matters is whether or not something is true not whether or not it is 'left' or 'right'

 

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But is there a right-wing gloss or narrative that uses the information you provide to support a right wing political position?

 

I can’t think of any prominent conspiracy theorist that puts a leftwing gloss on such information. There must be one or two out there somewhere but I can’t find them. Maybe Icke could be seen as a bit on the left, but that's about it.

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maybe instead of using the right left dichotomy

try the new agers vs conservatives

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22 hours ago, digital said:

Hi, I’m new here.

 

I’ve been reading a lot about the various conspiracy theories, and have noticed that they are all seem to be based on right wing philosophy/s. Is that true?

 

If so, why is that?

 

 

Short answer

 

it is true.

 

because conspiracy theories and the "alt media" which promotes them are simply the propaganda arm of right wing elites.

 

so these right wing conspiracy theories help to serve the agenda of right wing elites.

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1 minute ago, digital said:

That's what I suspected after reading the Wikipedia entry for "New World Order":

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

 

All the proponents of it were either right wing organisations or Christian fundamentalist organisations. I couldn't find any left wings ones.

 

 

Well digital welcome to this forum, and I want to say that you have very good instincts because you are indeed absolutely right.

 

The NWO conspiracy theory is an entirely right wing creation based on elements of truth, but ultimately with the goal to mislead people and get them to support an elitist right wing agenda.

 

I must warn you that for embracing this TRUTH you will be attacked on this forum, because a large number of the members on here are right wingers and they dont want to admit to the this truth because ultimately their goal is to push this very right wing agenda. They will treat you nicely at first and try and convince you that what I am saying isn't true, but if you become an outspoken member like me and SeanX, they will try and bully you. I have for a long time been exposing much of the so called "truth movement" as frauds and agents, and the thanks I get for bringing forth such information is that I get called a "shill" and much worse. You can check all the information I am going to tell you and you will see that what I will tell you is the truth. Don't listen to the right wing shills on here, because your instincts were dead on.

 

The long story is, and again they will all try and deny this

 

There are 2 factions of elites.  You can describe them generally as right wing elites and left wing elites. But the left wing elites aren't really leftists. They embrace left wing social causes like "womens rights" and "gay pride", they talk about "equality"  but their economic policies are Neoliberal which are centrist at best. I like calling them "liberal elites" more so than "left wing"

 

The "liberal elites" since the civil war in America had held more power than the "right wing elites"  They dominated banking, industry, and very importantly THE MEDIA. This isn't to say the right wing elites had no in roads into these areas, but they were dominated by "liberal elites"

 

The "right wing" elites fresh from the loss of the civil war and the loss of their economic engine which was SLAVERY, would hold very racist beliefs which they still hold to this very day, and you will see racism baked into many aspects of their ideology and propaganda. They created the KKK as a terrorist arm of their political machine, at the time was to suppress black voters and rights in the south. They went to work in terms of their propaganda creating things like "the lost cause" where they totally rewrote history of the civil war and claimed it was never about slavery but about "states rights"  etc.   You will see a lot of "states rights" arguments by these right wing elites TODAY. 

 

As the "liberal elites"  dominated the Newspapers and eventually TV News in the form of CBS, NBC, and ABC the "right wing elites" needed a way to get forth their propaganda and they did so in the form of the John Birch Society.

 

This is an organization you need to study in order to understand the propaganda of the "right wing elites" and how they created the "truth movement" and "alt media" and how they used conspiracy theories to push their agenda.

 

The JBS was founded in the late 1950's by the father of the Koch Brothers and a key Texas oil billionaire named HL Hunt, who was at that time the richest man in the world. Both the JBS and HL Hunt were deeply involved in the assasination of JFK, and the JBS would attempt to put out disinformation and conspiracy theories that JFK was killed by Communists. This is key to understanding the agenda and ideology of the JBS, they were staunchly anti-communist and in virtually all of their conspiracy theories, the evil plotters are communists. They see a "communist threat" everywhere, and this is obviously total bullshit as was the case with their fake JFK conspiracy theory.

 

The JBS are the ones who basically created the "NWO conspiracy theory"  JBS guys like Garry Allen wrote "None dare call it a conspiracy"   Other guys like Cleon Skousen wrote "the naked communist"  There was also JBS member G Edward Griffin who "the creature from Jekell Island"

 

The themes amongst these guys are common.  The NWO is a bunch of "liberal elites" who secretly want to create a Communist world government and they use the Federal Reserve the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral commission as engines to achieve this goal.  They "hate religion"  they hate "freedom" and they want to take away all the guns and throw conservatives into concentration camps.

 

the reality is about the concentration camps is that it was the "right wing elites" under Ronald Reagan who drew up plans to mass encarcerate "enemies of the state" which they stated would be a large number of minorities in a plan called Rex84.

 

The John Birch Society basically evolved into the COUNCIL FOR NATIONAL POLICY in 1980. This is a major think tank which was created by a whole bunch of JBS guys, and this is the organization that is behind all of the agenda of the "right wing elites"

 

The CNP controls todays "alt media" and "conspiracy culture"  which as you pointed out was right wing.

 

Alex Jones and Infowars is a CNP operation.  AJ of course parrots old school JBS talking points and he has had plenty of CNP and JBS members on his show to promote their agenda. Former Infowars whitehouse correspondent Jerome Corsi is a CNP member.  He also helped to start a bunch of conspiarcy theories like "Obama not being born in America"  which Donald Trump began to pick up.

 

Breitbart was run by Steve Bannon who is another CNP member

World Net Daily run by CNP member

 

What you will find is that virtually all "alt media" can somehow be connected back to the CNP, and if they dont have any direct links they will still be pushing the same propaganda that either the JBS and the CNP created.

 

You will find the same themes

 

-communists and socialists taking over

-Globalists are responsible for everything

- the Globalists/liberals want to take away guns

- they Globalists/liberals use political correctness to censor speech

- they Globalists/liberals engage in identity politics

- they Globalists/liberals are using immigration to destroy the West (white genocide conspiracy theory)

- the Globalists/liberals control everything

- the Globalists/liberals want to create a World Government (usually the United Nations is cited)

- the Globalists/liberals hate Trump because he is fighting them "the deep state"

- If only we had "free markets" everything would be great

- If only we decentralized power and got rid of government everything would be great and we would enjoy "freedom"

 

- Everything is the fault of Globalists, Liberals, Communists, Socialists, Muslims, Immigrants, Blacks, Mexicans

 

- of course the right wing is not responsible for anything

 

- this is all propaganda that has been paid for by billionaires for over a century, and the crux of the matter is that this was how the right wing elites were to promote their propaganda, THROUGH CONSPIRACY THEORIES.  They knew this would catch on because they could disguise their propaganda as "anti- establishment" when in reality it was simply propaganda of another faction of elites.

 

The main goal of the "alt media" and conspiracy culture seems to be to help put into power fake right wing "populists" by giving them "anti-establishment" cover.

 

the "alt medias" greatest achievement to this day was to put Donald Trump in power.

 

Steve Bannon a member of the CNP and one of the brains behind the Trump campaign is now in Europe trying to help other fake "populists" to get into power so he is backing

 

Brexit

Marie Le Pen in France

the right wing parties in Germany, Holland

 

 

This is all an elitist agenda masked as "anti-establisment"

 

Sorry for the long rant.

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1 hour ago, digital said:

Is Icke on the New Age axis do you think?

 

Icke IMO is helping the right wing elites

 

Now while he correctly called out Donald Trump as an elitist shill, he is still on board with the Trump agenda in many aspects such as

 

- blaming Liberals for everything

- pushing the whole anti-PC line

- pushing the whole anti-immigration agenda

- pushing Brexit which is an elite backed agenda

- praising Tucker Carlson who is a right wing elitist and number one cheerleader of Donald Trump

- much of Icke's talking points are simply re hashed JBS propaganda

 

I dont believe I've ever heard Icke talk once about

 

the JBS or the CNP

 

matter of fact few "alt media" researchers ever go into these topics, and that is how you know these groups control the narrative of the "alt media"

 

Alex Jones was asked about it once on his show and he played stupid like he had never heard of the CNP before.  This is despite a large number of his guests, who he is close with, being members.

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1 hour ago, digital said:

That's what I suspected after reading the Wikipedia entry for "New World Order":

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

 

All the proponents of it were either right wing organisations or Christian fundamentalist organisations. I couldn't find any left wings ones.

 

 

yup.

 

Pat Robertson who wrote "the NWO order"  is a member of the Council for National Policy

 

the CNP runs all of the evangelical fundamentalist Christians, they created what was known as the "moral majority" in the 1980's where they co-opted the evangelical movement and forced them to vote for Republicans.

 

This is why so many so called Christians will vote for Trump even though he lies every time his mouth opens, and even though he always cheats on his wife with porn stars, and even though he has contempt for the poor.

 

All these "conspiracy guys" are all CNP or JBS members. Virtually all of them.

 

These conspiracy theories are basically the right wing faction of elites exposing the left wing faction of elites, and blaming them for everything.  Their ploy is to then offer their solutions as "anti-establishment" and being "for the people"

 

But what people dont understand is that these right wing elites ARE ACTUALLY WORSE than the so called "liberal elites" they are exposing.

 

They essentially want you to jump from a frying pan into a fire.

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Thanks for your very informative posts. It rings true to my experiences with various NWO conspiracy literature that I’ve read. For years, I never questioned that such literature was politically biased. Thinking instead that it was just an objective representation of the state of play. But after a few years I began to notice that all the proponents of the NWO theory were all right-wing people (such as Jones etc). This is when I began to suspect that the NWO theory wasn’t perhaps what it was represented as being.

 

Another thing that focused my mind on the right-wing aspect of conspiracy theories, was the advent of the UK referendum to leave the EU and the arguments made in favour of leaving. These arguments, by and large, all parroted the various conspiracy theories in support of leaving the EU. Being now on the verge of leaving the EU, the UK faces an uncertain future, albeit one that is very much welcomed by right-wing organisations etc.

 

But the way you have explained things for me is very informative and concise. And gives me some areas of research to delve into. So thanks.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, digital said:

Thanks for your very informative posts. It rings true to my experiences with various NWO conspiracy literature that I’ve read. For years, I never questioned that such literature was politically biased. Thinking instead that it was just an objective representation of the state of play. But after a few years I began to notice that all the proponents of the NWO theory were all right-wing people (such as Jones etc). This is when I began to suspect that the NWO theory wasn’t perhaps what it was represented as being.

 

Another thing that focused my mind on the right-wing aspect of conspiracy theories, was the advent of the UK referendum to leave the EU and the arguments made in favour of leaving. These arguments, by and large, all parroted the various conspiracy theories in support of leaving the EU. Being now on the verge of leaving the EU, the UK faces an uncertain future, albeit one that is very much welcomed by right-wing organisations etc.

 

But the way you have explained things for me is very informative and concise. And gives me some areas of research to delve into. So thanks.

 

 

 

 

your welcome

 

as I said you will be the minority on this forum for thinking the way you do.

 

I have also exposed Brexit for being an elite agenda and get abused for doing so, because people do not want to look at the truth, they want to accept their own biases and what makes them feel good.

 

Brexit is being backed by

 

Russia

Israel

Alex Jones and Infowars

Breitbart and Steve Bannon

Rupert Murdoch, Fox News

Donald Trump and gang

The Koch Brothers

The Queen

Offshore Tax havens

"free marketers"

Cambridge Analytica and Robert Mercer

 

this is not a grassroots movement one single bit, despite all the whining and protesting of our friends on this forum.

 

The EU is run by "liberal elites"

 

Brexit is run by "right wing elites"

 

The fascist elites are in control of the US, Israel, Russia and they want to strip UK away from the EU elites and bring them into their sphere of influence.

 

Much of this revolves around the EU's relative anti-Israel stance on many issues such as the Iran nuclear deal, criticism of settlements etc.

 

Israel wants to smash the EU, as does Russia and the US.

 

 

and yes mate I used to listen to Alex Jones for 5 straight years until I noticed his right wing bias and couldn't ignore it any longer. I did the research into him and all of the "alt media' which was how I figured all this stuff out, and I predicted on the old forum that Alex Jones would be used to create a fake "anti-establisment" movement.  I predicted this 3 years before Trump.

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It might be here the goal to discredit certain topics: to let only right wingers speak about these topics helps to keep these important arguments far from a vaste public and to associate them to bad bigot people, so if to speak about certain topics they are only racist, bigot christians, etc. they will be few considered and percepited like lies.

 

They exist also outlets and authors who are leftist or genuine indipendent, however, don't forget.

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3 hours ago, digital said:

Is Icke on the New Age axis do you think?

ah i didnt say switched on peeps fall into thr binary system. 

 

its just another control mechanism created within the masonic system

 

what you reckon digital? 

new age vs old age a better way to view the nwo vs owo. precession

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, alfredo79 said:

It might be here the goal to discredit certain topics: to let only right wingers speak about these topics helps to keep these important arguments far from a vaste public and to associate them to bad bigot people, so if to speak about certain topics they are only racist, bigot christians, etc. they will be few considered and percepited like lies.

 

They exist also outlets and authors who are leftist or genuine indipendent, however, don't forget.

 

yes there are genuine independent thinkers and researchers in what we call "the truth movement"

 

I think honestly they are few and far between however.

 

There are really only a few people I have found who are looking for the truth regardless of where it lies, and without bias, and with true objectivity.

 

The vast majority of "alt media" fall under the umbrella of the JBS CNP right wing conspiracy wing, because this alt media has been their creation from the beginning.

 

This is why I like the work of David Livingstone, who does excellent research into how either wing of the elites has their hands in virtually everything.

 

http://www.conspiracyschool.com/

 

The Antedote youtube channel is also an excellent source of information

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMf1qGR8km1c8vg_dtpzzVQ

 

 

then you have other alt media outlets who I would admit have more of a leftist lean like

 

Webster Tarpley

The Real News Network

Abbey Martin

MintpressNews

 

so no its not all right wingers, but again I think it is important to stress that the vast majority are.

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29 minutes ago, alfredo79 said:

It might be here the goal to discredit certain topics: to let only right wingers speak about these topics helps to keep these important arguments far from a vaste public and to associate them to bad bigot people, so if to speak about certain topics they are only racist, bigot christians, etc. they will be few considered and percepited like lies.

 

They exist also outlets and authors who are leftist or genuine indipendent, however, don't forget.

 

Do you mean that the preponderance of right-wing conspiracy theorists is in itself part of a conspiracy to discredit conspiracy theories in the eyes of the general public?

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1 hour ago, digital said:

 

Do you mean that the preponderance of right-wing conspiracy theorists is in itself part of a conspiracy to discredit conspiracy theories in the eyes of the general public?

 

Very possible. The censorship is not the best way, instead it's better to mix the important fundamental topics with rightist bigot racist buffonesc views or with very fantasious things.

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Just now, alfredo79 said:

 

Very possible. The censorship is not the best way, instead it's better to mix the important fundamental topics with rightist bigot racist buffonesc views or with very fantasious things.

 

I see why you would think this, and I thought the same myself before but I dont really agree.

 

First of all we have to conclude what topics in conspiracy theories are true.

 

Because a lot of it is total lies.

 

Most of these conspiracy theories started a long time ago when racism was socially acceptable, so it wasn't really "discrediting it by associating it with such groups"

 

racism is now socially unacceptable TODAY

 

racism was socially acceptable when many of these theories started.

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On 9/3/2019 at 4:15 PM, digital said:

Hi, I’m new here.

 

I’ve been reading a lot about the various conspiracy theories, and have noticed that they are all seem to be based on right wing philosophy/s. Is that true?

 

If so, why is that?

 

And are there any conspiracy theories that are not based on right wing philosophy/s?

 

This is not a troll post—I’m genuinely interested in knowing the answer.

Don't forget that Jeremy Corbyn is a massive anti - semite. So are many modern Socialists. 

Anti - semitism and a belief that the Rothschilds control the world is a sure sign of mental instability. 

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falling into the trap of folding everything back into politics

see beyond political discourse, politicians do when down the lodge

 

masons move beyond inferior social scenes

international boundaries blur when staring at the heavens

 

history is a great mover and shaker as it affects oneself, one defines oneself through history

 

conspiracy theories attend to official history, revisting, revising, retelling

 

the self is becoming, altered, less rooted,

 

jesus fuckign christ it aint right wingers creating conspiracy theories , .... its the marxists eroding our history and our identity. 1984 !!!!

 

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19 hours ago, zArk said:

 

jesus fuckign christ it aint right wingers creating conspiracy theories , .... its the marxists eroding our history and our identity. 1984 !!!!

 

 

a perfect example of somebody who has been brainwashed by right wing conspiracy theories.

 

Marxists responsible for everything wrong with society, even though Marxists have absolutely no political power.

 

The purpose of right wing conspiracies is to manipulate the public to accept fascism.

 

That means a system of far right faux nationalism that allows the oligarchs to consolidate wealth, power and control, while the masses are distracted by racial, ethnic, and culture wars.

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On 9/4/2019 at 4:50 PM, Vancity Eagle said:

I have also exposed Brexit for being an elite agenda and get abused for doing so

please report anyone that is abusing you on the DIF.

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9 hours ago, JumpRogue said:

please report anyone that is abusing you on the DIF.

 

Who do I report you to ? 

 

You have abused your position as moderator and banned at least four people that I know of for absolutely no good reason other than a shocking lack of discernment 

 

Deleting an entire thread called.finding.common ground is not moderation it is.censorship.and you are censoring people on the david icke sociap.at a time when this world is faced with.more tyranny and censorship than at any other point in my life

 

What the hell do you think you are doing here if not just trying to subvert and destroy the place ? 

 

So who do I report you to for abusing your position and forum members by telling them to live like hermits and shut their mouths if they.dont like your changes ? 

 

 

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On 9/4/2019 at 3:17 PM, digital said:

That's what I suspected after reading the Wikipedia entry for "New World Order":

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

 

All the proponents of it were either right wing organisations or Christian fundamentalist organisations. I couldn't find any left wings ones.

 

 

And you're getting your info from Wikipedia? I thought you said you were researching?

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On 9/4/2019 at 4:41 PM, digital said:

Thanks for your very informative posts. It rings true to my experiences with various NWO conspiracy literature that I’ve read. For years, I never questioned that such literature was politically biased. Thinking instead that it was just an objective representation of the state of play. But after a few years I began to notice that all the proponents of the NWO theory were all right-wing people (such as Jones etc). This is when I began to suspect that the NWO theory wasn’t perhaps what it was represented as being.

 

Another thing that focused my mind on the right-wing aspect of conspiracy theories, was the advent of the UK referendum to leave the EU and the arguments made in favour of leaving. These arguments, by and large, all parroted the various conspiracy theories in support of leaving the EU. Being now on the verge of leaving the EU, the UK faces an uncertain future, albeit one that is very much welcomed by right-wing organisations etc.

 

But the way you have explained things for me is very informative and concise. And gives me some areas of research to delve into. So thanks.

 

 

 

You're aware that most true socialists are anti EU? Did you not realise that the Socialists Worker's Party campaigned to vote leave as well as many prominent trade unionists (see Trade Unionists Against the EU)? Remember it was the Tories who arbitrarily signed us over to the EEC in the first place, with great opposition from many on the left.

 

As for the new world order,  the left is against this but chooses to use terms such as globalisation. We're talking about international corporations and institutions such as IMF who are working with government to consolidate power - a very real phenomenon. I think you need to conduct deeper and more nuanced research than just reading conservative outlets like Wikipedia. 

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