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Hello everyone,,,

I've read explanations and watched youtube videos but no one has put it into terms I understand. I read headlines like, "Theresa May cannot get the votes once again!" and it means absolutely nothing to me.

Can someone just explain it like, "Imagine Donald Trump(or anyone else in the American political system) did so and so..." 

 

The big overview?

It's Donald Trump - We're gonna make America great! All these (darkies) are holding us back!!! We're gonna build a wall and Mexico is gonna pay for it. We're gonna make China pay.

It's exactly the same. Big vague promises that cannot be kept. They can't be kept because they are either unrealistic (mexico wall) and that many of the problems in the UK are not caused by external parties but themselves.

As such there are loads of problems. Imagine say you're trying to pitch a baseball but you're absolutely surrounded by catchers. May has negotiated a deal that can throw the baseball into the only place there isn't a catcher.

Nobody is happy with it as it keeps the UK in the EU to some extent and also out of the EU thus seen as the worst of both worlds.

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Yes ...I can explain it well , particularly since I don't live there , don't watch UK news , but I am a UK citizen ... Those who live there saturated with the latest news will get caught up in irrelevant details which are not important ....

 

Nearly 3 years ago there was a vote on whether the UK should stay in the EU ... the People Voted LEAVE ....

 

The controllers did not like this . The NWO is all about centralization of power , the EU is one step towards that ....

 

So the politicians drag their feet ... excuses ... delays ... convoluted ridiculous arguments , which we don't need to get into ....all the time hoping the people will give up , all the time listening to internet chatter to see just what they can get away with .... If they think the people have lost interest the UK will never leave ... 

 

The people need to be more vocal , more militant.

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Brexit and all other similar policies is all about re-distribution of the wealth and or resorces, the corporative arms are now redistributing everything of worth about the globe in order of getting the maximum control and profit from us, the people are the real global wealth that our labour and our physical energy produces, this is their main aim, to bring about a Brexit of our true intuition and product, for the elite and nothing in return for those who are forced to feed them with their own energy.

 

The way to sort out the immediate problem is to deny them your energy, and give it or any surplus to those who truly need it or deserve it.

 

What we need is a peoples exit from the governance now bearing down upon us.

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Brexit is like The Undertaker and Kane ( The Undertaker being the USA and Kane being the UK ).

Now imagine those to WWE guys kicking the hell out of all the other WWE fighters.

 

or Imagine Vince Mcmahon trying to decide if Kane(UK) really needs help or not for his next upcoming battle.

 

Then you have the fans of Kane(UK) some of Kanes fans( fans being the UK citizens ) agree that Kane is too amazing to need help, and other fans say that it would be good if Kane teamed up with another small WWF fighter.

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1 hour ago, oz93666 said:

Yes ...I can explain it well , particularly since I don't live there , don't watch UK news , but I am a UK citizen ... Those who live there saturated with the latest news will get caught up in irrelevant details which are not important ....

 

Nearly 3 years ago there was a vote on whether the UK should stay in the EU ... the People Voted LEAVE ....

 

The controllers did not like this . The NWO is all about centralization of power , the EU is one step towards that ....

 

So the politicians drag their feet ... excuses ... delays ... convoluted ridiculous arguments , which we don't need to get into ....all the time hoping the people will give up , all the time listening to internet chatter to see just what they can get away with .... If they think the people have lost interest the UK will never leave ... 

 

The people need to be more vocal , more militant.

 

 

 Then explain to us why a lot of the controllers as you call them ,  i.e. all the controllers, for example  who own the private print media were some of the main driving forces of the leave campaign.  As were a lot of the  controllers politicians. 

 

Your argument doesnt  add up. It is not as black and white as you want it. 

 

Maybe more  people here should read more of vancity’s posts  for an analysis of what is REALLY happening. 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Seanx said:

Then explain to us why a lot of the controllers as you call them ,  i.e. all the controllers, for example  who own the private print media were some of the main driving forces of the leave campaign.  As were a lot of the  controllers politicians. 

Your argument doesnt  add up. It is not as black and white as you want it. 

Maybe more  people here should read more of vancity’s posts  for an analysis of what is REALLY happening. 

 

As I said in the post above , I don't follow UK media ... but I'll take your word for it that some newspapers , and certainly many politicians were for exit ....

 

There has to be some balance .. newspapers have to reflect the views of those who buy them , if every media outlet was saying stay the people would smell a rat ...

I think it's fair to say the BIG outlets under tight control , like the BBC were biased for stay ...

they have to be subtle about the propaganda ,

 

The 'controllers' I refer to are the rothschilds and a few others , the other politicians are mostly unaware of the bigger plan 

No one can doubt great efforts are being made now to prevent exit .... or that the EU is a dictatorship and was planned from the start by those after a NWO. 

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1 hour ago, oz93666 said:

 

As I said in the post above , I don't follow UK media ... but I'll take your word for it that some newspapers , and certainly many politicians were for exit ....

 

There has to be some balance .. newspapers have to reflect the views of those who buy them , if every media outlet was saying stay the people would smell a rat ...

I think it's fair to say the BIG outlets under tight control , like the BBC were biased for stay ...

they have to be subtle about the propaganda ,

 

The 'controllers' I refer to are the rothschilds and a few others , the other politicians are mostly unaware of the bigger plan 

No one can doubt great efforts are being made now to prevent exit .... or that the EU is a dictatorship and was planned from the start by those after a NWO. 

 We are talking about some of the top controllers here ...the Murdoch’s, the Barclays brothers and the owners of daily mail. 

 

These are some of the top controllers  in the UK - all of whose papers were aggressively pro -leave. And now they are aggressively pro no deal. 

 

As vancity explains all of these guys are also linked to the top controllers in the US and Israel.......

 

Though, ultimately I’m  getting more and more convinced these are all ‘dramas’ created by the controllers to steal our attention and drag us away from the real power in our bodies.

 

Your own  idea of discovering power and bliss inside. Instead we are pouring all our energies into arguing  over this ultimate nonsense.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Seanx said:

 We are talking about some of the top controllers here ...the Murdoch’s, the Barclays brothers and the owners of daily mail. 

These are some of the top controllers  in the UK - all of whose papers were aggressively pro -leave. And now they are aggressively pro no deal. 

As vancity explains all of these guys are also linked to the top controllers in the US and Israel.......

 

 

I've just looked at a few of VE's posts on this .... It appears he's for staying in the EU ..... unbelievable ! 

 

The post I read he sites netenyahoos metting with boris johnson as proof Israel is behind exit ...lol

 

I just searched BJ ...here's the latest ...." BORIS JOHNSON will threaten to sabotage the EU if MPs do not back an election to settle Brexit.... ... "

 

It's laughable .... boris is a deep insider , a jew , and also related to royalty .... he's playing good cop , pretending to get us out ....  He wants an election to settle Brexit .... so he's saying the vote 3 years ago didn't decide anything ... now an election will settle it ... and that means it can go either way ...perhaps no brexit.

 

EU is a fundamental stepping stone to the NWO  ..everybody is agreed on that from AJ to DI ... 

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9 hours ago, oz93666 said:

 

I've just looked at a few of VE's posts on this .... It appears he's for staying in the EU ..... unbelievable ! 

 

The post I read he sites netenyahoos metting with boris johnson as proof Israel is behind exit ...lol

 

I just searched BJ ...here's the latest ...." BORIS JOHNSON will threaten to sabotage the EU if MPs do not back an election to settle Brexit.... ... "

 

It's laughable .... boris is a deep insider , a jew , and also related to royalty .... he's playing good cop , pretending to get us out ....  He wants an election to settle Brexit .... so he's saying the vote 3 years ago didn't decide anything ... now an election will settle it ... and that means it can go either way ...perhaps no brexit.

 

EU is a fundamental stepping stone to the NWO  ..everybody is agreed on that from AJ to DI ... 

 

VANCITY SAYS NOTHING OF THE SORT ABOUT PRO EU..  You clearly want everything to be black and white. Goodies and baddies and all that simplistic nonsense.

 

 

 

 

 

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I dont think its possible to equate the political situation from the US and the UK

 

i have lived on both sides of the atlantic and just about the only thing thats the same is people dont like being lied to on a regular basis 

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There is also a lot of purposeful deception banded about regarding the nature of life in the UK and North America 

 

Having spent time.observing this I put it down to purposeful misinformation spread by the media 

 

And not people using social.media

 

If anything social.media has bridged a gap between the two places 

 

We can watch in real.time the thoughts and ideas people have and dont need the middle.man on the TV to tell us how it is anymore

 

Obviously this is a huge problem for the fat controllers 

 

Hence the pretending that social.media is the greatest threat to democracy in both places

 

IMO the greatest threat is the TV and print media

 

They want us all fighting each other instead of turning to fave the real.problem , which is partly them but mostly the ones who own it

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Brexit is nothing but racist, white supremacy writ large. 

 

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Just now, Lui said:

Brexit is nothing but racist, white supremacy writ large. 

 

 

I'm sure that's what they taught you at school ... Have you left school yet??

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1 hour ago, oz93666 said:

 

I'm sure that's what they taught you at school ... Have you left school yet??

Are you aware of irony, can you not equate the picture I posted with what I wrote? 

 

For somebody who thinks Iron Sky's is a documentary that's pretty rich. 

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2 hours ago, Lui said:

Brexit is nothing but racist, white supremacy writ large. 

 

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Is that Flavor Flav?? ' So get the morgue truck and embalm the goner'

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7 hours ago, Lui said:

Are you aware of irony, can you not equate the picture I posted with what I wrote? 

 

For somebody who thinks Iron Sky's is a documentary that's pretty rich. 

 

I'm sorry , that went over my head ....

 

Kids (in London anyway) are brought up in schools where white faces are a minority ... "inclusiveness" is the key word .. The controllers try to equate Brexit as closing the door to the outside world and people who want it must be racist ...

 

This is not what it's about ... Immigration should be decided by the people in the country itself , if the English believe there are enough houses and flats for more , they can vote for more open borders ...

 

Scenes like this in London are not rare , houses cram packed , sky high rents (see documentary series like "nightmare tenants , slum landlords")

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At the moment immigration is done quietly without the consent of the people , all with the aim of destabilizing society ...

 

Even if Brexit does happen , immigration will continue  unless the people wake up ... the borders are intentionally porous , and when caught offenders are just let go "pending appeal"  It's a joke which nobody seems to see ....

 

The long term aim must be a world without borders or passports , but it must be done incrementally. 

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On 9/7/2019 at 10:41 AM, Jhonmicky said:

Hello everyone,,,

I've read explanations and watched youtube videos but no one has put it into terms I understand. I read headlines like, "Theresa May cannot get the votes once again!" and it means absolutely nothing to me.

Can someone just explain it like, "Imagine Donald Trump(or anyone else in the American political system) did so and so..." 

 

The big overview?

It's Donald Trump - We're gonna make America great! All these (darkies) are holding us back!!! We're gonna build a wall and Mexico is gonna pay for it. We're gonna make China pay.

It's exactly the same. Big vague promises that cannot be kept. They can't be kept because they are either unrealistic (mexico wall) and that many of the problems in the UK are not caused by external parties but themselves.

As such there are loads of problems. Imagine say you're trying to pitch a baseball but you're absolutely surrounded by catchers. May has negotiated a deal that can throw the baseball into the only place there isn't a catcher.

Nobody is happy with it as it keeps the UK in the EU to some extent and also out of the EU thus seen as the worst of both worlds.

Thank you my issue has been solved,...

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In layman's terms 

A bunch of middle class left of centre control freaks will not accept the result 

of a referendum and have flooded the political scene with  whatabouterry.

What about this ? What about that ? You didn't know what you was voting for etc etc

 

But none of these hindsight technicians mentioned any of this whatabouterry prior to the

referendum , did they? Else we would have known what we were voting for .

 

Check. And. Mate . 

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In a nut shell, yes the country narrowly voted to LEAVE. Unfortunately the leave campaign was riddled with lies and was inaccurate by omission. What makes it worse is that half the country thinks that's OK!

 

Vested interests are making millions over our extraction from Europe. The public (especially the older "we didn't fight in two world wars to... blah blah" Little Englanders) were hoodwinked into thinking the country would then be like Singapore, only with cricket!
 

The money lost, spent, wasted on the whole fiasco could have been much better spent elsewhere.

If "Remoaners" have lost, what have Bexiteers won? Bearing in mind that "winning" has required billions of pounds to be spent on contingency planning? What kind of winning advantage necessitates such expensive contingencies anyway?

 

Pointless arguing here. The best minds have come to an impasse...

 

Janet

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49 minutes ago, Janet W said:

In a nut shell, yes the country narrowly voted to LEAVE. Unfortunately the leave campaign was riddled with lies and was inaccurate by omission. What makes it worse is that half the country thinks that's OK!

 

Vested interests are making millions over our extraction from Europe. The public (especially the older "we didn't fight in two world wars to... blah blah" Little Englanders) were hoodwinked into thinking the country would then be like Singapore, only with cricket!
 

The money lost, spent, wasted on the whole fiasco could have been much better spent elsewhere.

If "Remoaners" have lost, what have Bexiteers won? Bearing in mind that "winning" has required billions of pounds to be spent on contingency planning? What kind of winning advantage necessitates such expensive contingencies anyway?

 

Pointless arguing here. The best minds have come to an impasse...

 

Janet

 

the majority of people in the country who voted voted for brexit

 

they were not by and large people who make their money through cunning gamesmanship in the markets or through financial skullduggery; they are not people who live off their investments. They were by and large people who work for a living. They are people who value family, honest work, stable communities, love of their land and culture and living free from constant government interference

 

The EU on the other hand is a project started by nazis and run by unelected commissioners who work hand in glove with corporate socialists who have a vision for the world of total control of every man, woman and child on the planet. To achieve that vision requires social engineering on a vast scale and the reality is that most people around the world don't want to be socially engineered by fascistic, corporate, satanic pedophiles hellbent on centralised control

 

So people who voted for brexit are not motivated primarily by money. Arguments that they will be hit in the purse fall on deaf ears because they are people who understand that there are things in life that you cannot put a price on. They know that even if the economy has a short term wobble after brexit that the long term benefits of being outside of the EU will be worth any difficulties required to get there. They are willing to rescue their country even if it means a struggle just as their ancestors did when they defeated nazism ( which was funded by the same people behind the EU)

 

They are not seeking to protect their investments. They are seeking to protect their way of life, their families, their communities, their country and their rights and freedoms all of which are becoming increasingly under threat inside the elite run EU project which is really just a wing of the rockefellers trilateral commission

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Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm not suggesting all those who voted Brexit were rich bankers or those who make their money from financial gamesmanship - that I thought would be obvious. But the media and the Brexit message was engineered by those very people to manipulate the people who had nothing to lose and who felt TPTB deserved a good kicking. And to be honest, under those circumstances who would blame them?

 

Apparently everything will be ok. All this negativity is just Project Fear. Although what Remoaners have lost and Brexiteers have one still hasn't been made clear. Spending vast amounts on contingency plans when we're all heading for the sunlit uplands isn't clear either...

 

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MThese "best minds" are using the same minds to thwart the democratic process. Only the brain dead cannot see their own role in destroying any semblance of constitutional choice, such is their slavish devotion to their controllers and inability to think for themselves. 

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The 'democratic process' was based on lies, misinformation, disinformation, manipulation, the same crap we rile against so much here! The vote was flawed because The People were not given truthful information on which to base their decision. That is not democratic, that's engineered dishonesty.

 

I found this - just about sums it up:
 

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7 hours ago, Janet W said:

The 'democratic process' was based on lies, misinformation, disinformation, manipulation, the same crap we rile against so much here! The vote was flawed because The People were not given truthful information on which to base their decision. That is not democratic, that's engineered dishonesty.

 

I found this - just about sums it up:
 

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Trouble with Melville's tweet is that he conveniently forgets the 70s under labour ,winter of discontent etc.

All parties are shyte 

 

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8 hours ago, Janet W said:

In a nut shell, yes the country narrowly voted to LEAVE. Unfortunately the leave campaign was riddled with lies and was inaccurate by omission. What makes it worse is that half the country thinks that's OK!

 

Vested interests are making millions over our extraction from Europe. The public (especially the older "we didn't fight in two world wars to... blah blah" Little Englanders) were hoodwinked into thinking the country would then be like Singapore, only with cricket!
 

The money lost, spent, wasted on the whole fiasco could have been much better spent elsewhere.

If "Remoaners" have lost, what have Bexiteers won? Bearing in mind that "winning" has required billions of pounds to be spent on contingency planning? What kind of winning advantage necessitates such expensive contingencies anyway?

 

Pointless arguing here. The best minds have come to an impasse...

 

Janet

Which part was lies and inaccurate?

Which politicians in your opinion are paragons of virtue ?

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