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My absolute all time favourite thread on the old DIF was the OOPARTS thread. It is pretty humongous so won't copy it all over but the link can be found below:

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=11442

 

Anyway, I would like to revive the thread. It's been some time since I last read through it all so could possibly be duplicating info, but I think these finds are relatively recent so probably weren't included. Please feel free to contribute - don't worry overly about duplication.

 

Denisovan Cave

 

Excavations of Denisovan cave in Siberia began in 1977. There are at least 22 levels wherein ancient man-made tools and artifacts have been found in strata dating to between 155,000 and 282,000 years ago along with Neanderthal and Denisovan remains. It is level 11 that has drawn particular attention, a purely Denisovan level dated to the upper Paleolithic between 29,200 and 48,650 years ago. Extraordinary artifacts have been excavated from level 11 including:

 

  • A dark green chloritolite bracelet manufactured using a high level of technologial skills including the use of a two-sided stationary drill running at considerable speed. Such technology has previously been unheard of before the Neolithic period, many millenia afterwards. The bracelet has been dated to at least 50,000 years ago which is the limit of radiocarbon dating.
  • A bone needle with a near microscopic eye less than one millimetre in diameter drilled out at the head. Found in the lower part of level 11, the needle is even older than the bracelet. Another even finer and technically accomplished needle has been found in an even lower part of level 11.

 

 

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The Denisovans seem to be shaping up as one of the biggest breakthroughs ever made on the mysteries of pre-history. Andrew Collins has done some excellent 'food-for-thought' talks on the bigger picture relating to them, one of which is below:

 

 

 

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I immediately thought of Graham Hancock and lo and behold he is mentioned in the opening statement as travelling to the cave to investigate :) 

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3 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

I immediately thought of Graham Hancock and lo and behold he is mentioned in the opening statement as travelling to the cave to investigate :) 

 

Yeah, him and Andrew Collins are mates.

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17 hours ago, size of light said:

The Denisovans seem to be shaping up as one of the biggest breakthroughs ever made on the mysteries of pre-history. Andrew Collins has done some excellent 'food-for-thought' talks on the bigger picture relating to them, one of which is below:

 

 

 

 

Thanks for posting this video - I have now watched it and found it fascinating. I haven't read Andrew Collins' work yet but will no doubt order some of his stuff soon. I am currently working my way through Graham Hancock's book 'America Before,' referred to in the video, and which is what gave me the inspiration for reviving this thread.

 

I wasn't aware that the Denisovans were so large in stature. This has huge significance in terms of piecing our origins together due to, as I am sure most readers of this thread are aware, the so called myths about the giants and nephilim. Were the Denisovans the nephilim? The discovery of the Denisovans certainly goes a long way to explain the giant skeletons which have been found, many of which have been uncovered in the Americas where the native inhabitants have a larger amount of Denisovan DNA. The fact that Denisovan DNA is found spread out from Siberia to the Americas and Australasia, combined with the artifacts found in the cave, is suggestive of a considerably advanced species with artistic sensibility and, quite possibly, the ability to sail and navigate the oceans.

 

The Adena Elite hypothesis part was interesting too in that the giant skeletons were buried surrounded by smaller, human skeletons. It is believed that the giants were the "Adena elite" and were the keepers of knowledge and shamans. This has obvious parallels with the legends of the natives about Viracocha, Quetzalcoatl and Kukulkan, the deities who arrived from the sea with their superior knowledge in order to teach the natives skills including written language, agriculture and mathematics etc. These deities were reported to have been fair skinned and red haired and are associated with serpents.

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On the subject of the red-haired skeletal remains, I have skimmed through the old thread but didn't see anything about the Paracas skulls.

 

(Also, many of the images have fallen off the old thread so may be worth restoring to this one - please feel free to help).

 

The Paracas Skulls

 

https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/breaking-new-dna-testing-2000-year-old-elongated-paracas-skulls-changes-020914

https://www.gaia.com/article/what-are-paracas-skulls

 

The Paracas skulls were discovered in 1928 in the Paracas desert in Peru. They are elongated, have red hair and mysterious unknown DNA. Whilst elongated skulls have been discovered before, they have usually been explained by the ancient practice of head binding. However, the Paracas skulls are structurally different from other human skulls as they lack the sagittal crease, have different eye sockets and because of the position of the foramen magnum (which is the hole in the skulls where the spinal cord passes through). They are also 25% larger and 60% heavier than a normal human skull. One of the skulls has been dated to 800 years ago and another to 2000 years ago.

 

It has been shown that the red hair is not the result of bleaching and is genetic. This is curious as red hair originates in the Middle East and Europe and is not thought to be native to South America.

 

DNA testing suggests genetic mutation which has never been seen before which could have caused the skulls to become elongated. Another possibility which has been suggested is that the skulls belonged to the nephilim or some other unknown human-like creature. The DNA also showed a haplogroup of H2A which is found most frequently in Eastern Europe with bone sample from the most elongated skull showing as T2B which originates from the Mesopotamian fertile crescent region.

 

  “If these results hold,” writes Brien Foerster, “the history of the migration of people to the Americas is far more complex than we have been told previously.”

 

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Cydonia - The Face on Mars

 

https://moonconspiracy.wordpress.com/the-face-on-mars-and-the-pyramids-on-mars/

The “Face on Mars” is one of the great modern mysteries about Mars. The “Face” first came to our attention 22 years ago, and debate about what it is has raged ever since. Let’s hop in the Wayback Machine and return to 1976.



The Viking spacecraft reached Mars in July of 1976. It had two missions. One was to send a lander down to inspect the surface of Mars. The other was to orbit the red planet, within a 1,000 miles of the surface, and take thousands of pictures to help to determine the best landing site for the Viking 2 spacecraft due to reach Mars in a few weeks.

On July 26, 1976, during Viking 1’s thirty-fifth orbit of Mars, a set of photographic images arived at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. One of the photographic frames, taken in the northern desert Cydonia region, showed a mile long, 1,500 mesa that looked like a humanoid face.

NASA has attempted to downplay this image from the start. After showing the JPL press corp a slide of this remarkable image, Viking project scientist Gerald Soffen attempted to explain it away by saying that a picture transmitted a few hours later, of the same region, revealed that the image in the first photo “…was just a trick, just the way the light fell on it.”

SEEING IS/ISN’T BELIEVING:

When it comes to the Face on Mars, people tend to believe one of two things. That the “Face” is:

A. A striking pattern of light and shadow cast by hills in the area.

B. A sculpture carved by sentient (intelligent) Martians.

According to author Robert C. Kiviat , “NASA’s planetary scientists have maintained over the years that the face is a natural rock formation produced by wind erosion and that the particular lighting angle at which it was photographed created its resemblance to a human face.”

A key member in the opposing camp is lead by Richard Hoagland, a former member of the JPL press corps, and the author of “The Monuments of Mars.” Hoagland has led a long investigation into the Vking data. He and his team have analyzed different photographic frames, taken at different angles, weeks apart. He claims that he and his researchers have considerable evidence that the “face”, as well as some nearby pyramid-shaped objects and other “artifacts,” are the work of sentient creatures.

Hoagland first became involved with the Martian face in 1981. He attended a science conference where Vincent DiPietro and Gregory Molennar made a presentation. As Hoagland puts it, “These two computer-imaging experts had obtained data tapes of the face and had enhanced it. Their photographs showed some remarkable, stunning detail that was not at all evident on the raw image.”

Hoagland came to agree with Molennar and DiPietro’s contention that the faceappeared bilaterally symmetrical. According to Hoagland, he saw that the face “…had features which were humanoid, and it seemed above chance that it also had the right proportion.” It was at this point that Hoagland began to consider that the face might have been constructed by intelligent beings. By 1983, Hoagland came to be convinced of the face’s intelligent origin, leading to his fifteen year quest to “prove” the face on Mars is proof of intelligent life on Mars, as well as to try to get NASA to a send a photographic mission to Mars with the primary purpose to get new, better shots of the Martian face.

Some people in the science community disagree with the conclusions of Hoagland and his people. According to Michael Carr, the head of the original Viking orbiter imaging team, “Not one person of scientific credibility believes this.” As to the existence of Martian pyramids, in close proximity to the face, Carr states that he is not aware of a “single Viking image that has pyramids on it.”

THE TWO FACES OF NASA:

NASA has claimed for years that the “face” on Mars is not a face and doesn’t offer proof of intelligent life on Mars. Recently however, following new Mars pictures taken of the Cydonia mesa, NASA claimed that these pictures, which apparently show no face, are “proof” finally that the Martian face never existed. If NASA never believed the mesa was a face, why would they make such a big deal of “proving” the non-existence of something they never believed in the first place. That’s like a guy buying land that supposedly has no oil beneath it, then digging a dry hole to “prove” there’s no oil. Why bother?

CONCLUSION:

We find it ironic that NASA, who tried really hard to get the world to believe ancient bacteria on a meteorite came from Mars (which is looking more unlikely by the minute), would put so much energy into the notion that intelligent life couldn’t/didn’t exist on Mars. We thought NASA’s mission was to explore space, reporting back to U.S. citizens, WHO PAY FOR ALL THIS THROUGH THEIR TAXES, whatever they find. Wouldn’t finding proof of some ancient, Martian civilization be the greatest NASA accomplishment since sending men to the moon. You would think so.

Based on the “proof” currently available, we believe it is difficiult to prove or disprove that the face on Mars is a genuine alien artifact. Until NASA sends a rover or manned team to the Cydonia region where the” face” is, the existence of an alien created face on Mars will remain a mystery.

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On 11/22/2019 at 9:57 AM, Mitochondrial Eve said:

Based on the “proof” currently available, we believe it is difficiult to prove or disprove that the face on Mars is a genuine alien artifact

 

 there's no doubt its real and man made

 

carl munck the code part 9 and 10 has proof imo

 

part 9

 

part 10

 

 

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About 8-10 years ago a gentleman by the name of Klous Dona dragged an exhibition of these artifacts to quite a few countries,Don't quote me but I think it was called forbidden archeology and he did a book of the same name

 

 

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