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On 1/21/2020 at 6:07 PM, Seeker said:

Obviously there is this worship to Satan, Baal, jabulon (leader of the chitauri), Quetzalcoatl (from S. America and some consider Jesus) etc. But what actually is Satan, is it the leader of the reptilians as depicted... underground, surrounded by fire, big winged, horned sort of creature. Or is it the worship of the leader of the fallen angels, what I call the psychic vampires? This seems to be another confusing one to figure out and having so many different languages and cultures doesn’t help! 

 

Lucifer or Saturn are the easiest most widely known names. 

 

I think his race was a reptilian/grey hybrid to be honest, and he oversees the demons or lesser dense beings, like the greys, mantids, and reptilians. His boss is known as a head Reptilian. Together they make what has been called "hell" or rather a 4th dimensional group that uses planets up until …..nothing.

 

There are different types of souls, like I have mentioned before, like the book only 4 souls were ever made for crowns originally on Earth, now MORE IS expected from different types of souls, Lucifer is said to be one of the greatest, so this may be reference to before greys fell from grace and started becoming a problem to nearly everyone, even those in their own race that refused to change. Still nonetheless your talking millions upon millions of years of time, and that's how old that story is. That book is so outdated, the Da Vinci Code does a better job, maybe for one of sets of the 4. lol


Then there are so many overlapping characters in religion I mean, its ridiculous. Horus (male energy) (or the two sets of yin/yang -- as above so below) and Set (Lucifer), this is nothing compared to them being replicated in almost every religion, in different cultures, in different times. You might as well use the Da Vinci code for point of reference. lol Christianity is a mixture of even more ancient histories and the ancient Egyptian religion for the most part, not even the story of Cain and Able happened in Jew times or with Jews included, it was ancient Mu (ASIA). It predates even Jews, Earth's histories. So, how did Jews get a hold of our ancient histories only to call them their own??? There are 5.7 million Jews in America, they own over 33% of everything as a group, and there are roughly 320 million Americans, what authority do they really have from a higher spiritual perspective?? NOTHING!!! This isn't even getting into the darker topics! Its a scandal. Not only for Christianity but Judaism. Religion is becoming obsolete.

 

 

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On 2/12/2020 at 5:35 AM, muir said:

I'm tired of hearing new-agey wishy washy BS from people in the truth movement because the whole new age religion is a creation of the illuminati cabal

 

what its doing is to make you ignore the negative and instead to quieten your mind or in other words ignore reality and pretend it isn't happening

 

The purpose of them making you do that is not to improve your experience here in this reality. the purpose is to make you stop actively engaging with this reality so that you take yourself off the chessboard of life so that you will not challenge what they are doing and instead becoming a neutralised, navel gazing, non-entity

   Perhaps include a quote, because I'm not seeing what new-age-style comment(s) you might be referring to. I too, have always been annoyed by those who ignore negative things in life, but don't think that this type of thinking is limited to only new-age thinkers. This way of thinking has dominated a large part of humanity, and it comes from the desire to escape a particular reality.
    The only death magix I've ever conducted, and continue to conduct, is the act of alleviating death energy backlogs. Most backlogs would be already alleviated if the life that produced it had connections, assuming it wasn't one of those horrible lives and deaths consisting of only entrapment, torture and rape, ect.. The thing is, I've always ran into backlogs produced by human deaths which held no real reason for existing. While alive, these particular existences had connections and those that played the role of loving them, yet they produced a backlog anyway, why so? This is because that even though they went through some sort of pain or anguish enough to produce this backlog, they had nobody in their lives that they were connected to that was willing to take in the reality of what actually happened to them. Due to it being too painful, they chose to ignore this reality and pretend as though it never really happened to this person that they supposedly loved, and this allowed the backlog to Naturally form and stay. This kind of thinking has nothing to do with new age thinking, and everything to do with escapism.

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10 hours ago, positiveevitisop said:

   Perhaps include a quote, because I'm not seeing what new-age-style comment(s) you might be referring to. I too, have always been annoyed by those who ignore negative things in life, but don't think that this type of thinking is limited to only new-age thinkers. This way of thinking has dominated a large part of humanity, and it comes from the desire to escape a particular reality.

 

The aquarian conspiracy is all part of the overall globalist conspiracy and ties into the environmental movement and the counter culture of the 1960's:

 

The following is from David livingstons 'terrorism & the illuminati':

 

''Robert O. Anderson also contributed significant funds to a project
initiated by the Rockefeller family, together with Aurelio Peccei and Alexander
King, at the Rockefeller’s estate at Bellagio, Italy, called the Club of Rome.  In
1972, this Club of Rome, and the US Association of the Club of Rome, gave
widespread publicity to their publication of the notorious “Limits to Growth.”.
Supported by research done at MIT, this report concluded that industrialization
had to be halted to save the planet from ecological catastrophe.
    
These organizations were exploiting the panic induced when Paul
Ehrlich, a biologist at Stanford, and admirer of Bertrand Russell, in 1968,
211Terrorism and the Illuminati
wrote his Malthusian projections in a best-selling book called The Population
Bomb. In it, Ehrlich suggested, “a cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of
cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people....
We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out
of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless
decisions.” 2 Ehrlich also advocated placing birth control chemicals into the
world’s food supplies.
    
The chief individual in this agenda is director of the Aspen Institute,
Canadian multi-millionaire Maurice Strong. Strong is being heralded as the
“indispensable man” at the center of the U.N.’s global power. He has served
as director of the World Future Society, trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation
and Aspen Institute, and is a member of the Club of Rome. Strong is now
Senior Advisor to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, Senior Advisor to World
Bank President James Wolfensohn, Chairman of the Earth Council, Chairman
of the World Resources Institute, Co-Chairman of the Council of the World
Economic Forum, and member of Toyota’s International Advisory Board.
    
However, Strong also now heads the Golden Dawn, operates an
international drug ring, and is a top operative for British Intelligence. 3 He was a
founding member of both the Planetary Citizens. Strong and other luminaries,
like Queen Juliana of the Netherlands, Sir Edmund Hillary, Peter Ustinov,
Linus Pauling, Kurt Vonnegut, Leonard Bernstein, John Updike, Isaac Asimov,
Pete Seeger, are listed as original endorsers of Planetary Citizens. Founded
by Donald Keys, a disciple of Alice Bailey and former UN consultant, and
presided over for many years by the late Norman Cousins (CFR), the Planetary
Citizens organization supports the expansion of UN power and institutions. In
Earth At Omega, Keys maintains:
We have meditations at the United Nations a couple of times a week. The
meditation leader is Sri Chinmoy, and this is what he said about this situation:
“The United Nations is the chosen instrument of God; to be a chosen
instrument means to be a divine messenger carrying the banner of God’s
inner vision and outer manifestation. One day the world will ... treasure and
cherish the soul of the United Nations as its very own with enormous pride,
for this soul is all-loving, all-nourishing, and all-fulfilling”. 4
    
Maurice Strong also sits on the board of directors, and serves as director
of finance, for the Lindisfarne Center. Lindisfarne was founded by New Age
philosopher William Irwin Thompson, a former professor of humanities from
MIT and Syracuse University. Thompson said:
We have now a new spirituality, what has been called the New Age movement.
The planetization of the esoteric has been going on for some time... This is
now beginning to influence concepts of politics and community in ecology...
This is the Gaia [Mother Earth] politique... planetary culture.” Thompson
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further stated that, the age of “the independent sovereign state, with the
sovereign individual in his private property, [is] over, just as the Christian
fundamentalist days are about to be over. 5
    
The Lindisfarne Center is located in Manhattan’s historic Episcopal
Cathedral of St. John the Divine, dedicated to St. John, traditionally revered by
Freemasons of the Johannite creed. Maurice Strong is the Finance Director. The
center is supported by the Lilly Endowment, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and
the Rockefeller Foundation, and lists among its faculty members Amory Lovins,
Gaia theory biologist James Lovelock, and Luciferian adept and New Age author
David Spangler. According to Spangler, in Reflections on the Christ:
Lucifer, like Christ, stands at the door of man’s consciousness and knocks.
If man says, “Go away because I do not like what you represent, I am afraid
of you,” Lucifer will play tricks on that fellow. If man says, “Come in, and I
will give to you the treat of my love and understanding and I will uplift you
in the light and presence of the Christ, my outflow,” then Lucifer becomes
something else again. He becomes the being who carries that great treat, the
ultimate treat, the light of wisdom.... 6
    
Located at the same Cathedral of St. John the Divine that houses
the Lindisfarne Luciferians is the Temple of Understanding. It was founded
by Lucis Trust, and is the controlling authority for World Goodwill of Alice
Bailey. Launched in the early 1960s as the “spiritual counterpart of the
United Nations,” its founding sponsors included: John D. Rockefeller IV;
then-Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara, Planned Parenthood founder
Margaret Sanger, IBM president Thomas J. Watson, Socialist Party leader
Norman Thomas, Eleanor Roosevelt, Time-Life president James A. Linen,
author Christopher Isherwood, columnist Max Lerner; and entertainer Jack
Benny. The Temple organization, which works closely with the UN Secretariat,
the World Council of Churches, and the World Conference on Religion and
Peace, promotes the “Interfaith Movement” with its centennial celebration of
the World’s Parliament of Religions.
    
Maurice Strong is also a member of the Bahai World Faith. With Haifa,
in Israel, as the site of its international headquarters, the Bahai movement now
exercises a strong presence in the United Nations and its One-World Religion
agenda. Its involvement in the UN dates back to its founding in 1945.  In 1948,
the Bahai community was recognized as an international non-governmental
organization. In May 1970, they were granted consultative status with the
UN Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC), and later with the United
Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF). The Bahai organization has a working
relationship with the World Health Organization (WHO), is associated with the
UN Environment Programme, as well as many other religious, environmental
and social programs.
213Terrorism and the Illuminati
    
In 1978, Strong bought the Colorado Land & Cattle Company, which
owned 200,000 acres of San Luis Valley in Colorado, from Saudi arms dealer
Adnan Khashoggi. 7 A mystic had informed Maurice and his wife Hanne,
that the ranch, which they call “the Baca”, “would become the center for a
new planetary order which would evolve from the economic collapse and
environmental catastrophes that would sweep the globe in the years to come.”
The Strongs say they regard the Baca, which they also refer to as “The Valley
Of the Refuge Of World Truths”, as the paradigm for the entire planet.
    
The first groups to join the Strongs in setting up operations at the
desert site were the Aspen Institute and the Lindisfarne Association. The
Baca is replete with monasteries, and Ashram, Vedic temple, Native American
shamans, Hindu temple, ziggurat, and subterranean Zen Buddhist center.
Shirley MacLaine’s astrologer told her to move to the Baca, and she did. She
is building a New Age study center there where people can take short week-
long courses on the occult. Another of Strong’s friends, Najeeb Halaby, a CFR
member, former chairman of Pan American, and father of the Queen of Jordan,
wife to Freemason King Hussein, has built an Islamic ziggurat at the Baca.
Apparently, the Kissingers, the Rockefellers, the McNamaras, the Rothschilds
also make their pilgrimage to the Baca. 8
    
Few areas in the US are as rife in paranormal activity as Baca''

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19 hours ago, muir said:

The aquarian conspiracy is all part of the overall globalist conspiracy and ties into the environmental movement and the counter culture of the 1960's:

 

Are direct experience, common sense, logic and teachings that date back a few thousand years also part of this 1960s 'aquarian conspiracy' (whatever that is)?

 

Maybe you're the real victim of it if it causes you to shut down your own ability to think for yourself.

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On 2/15/2020 at 5:56 AM, size of light said:

Are direct experience, common sense, logic and teachings that date back a few thousand years also part of this 1960s 'aquarian conspiracy' (whatever that is)?

 

Maybe you're the real victim of it if it causes you to shut down your own ability to think for yourself.

 

The Salafi


Jamal ud Din Al Afghani


To embark on Albert Pike’s project of igniting three world wars in the twentieth
century, an important factor was the covert infiltration of the Islamic world, to
penetrate into its leadership, in order to guide it towards in a confrontation
with the West. The means by which this was to be accomplished was through
the spread of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the Middle East, in order to
recruit members into the conspiracy, who would then contribute by acting
as reformers, and misguiding the Muslim community into backwards and
belligerent principles, now known collectively as “fundamentalism”.
    
This strategy was spearhead by what has been referred to as the Oxford
Movement, established in the 1820’s, with a group of missionaries appointed
by a combined grouping of Oxford University, the Anglican Church, and Kings
College of London University, all under Scottish Rite Freemasonry. 1 The center
of this activity, again, was Egypt. The movement would continue to capitalize
on the theme of Egyptian Freemasonry created by Cagliostro, as Egypt, in this
case, was of particular importance, as the Scottish Rite Freemasons regarded
themselves as the inheritors of the classical Gnostic tradition that had survived
through the Grand Lodge of the Fatimid Ismailis
    
The leading promoters of the Oxford Movement were Pike’s fellow
member of the Palladian Rite, Lord Palmerston, and Prime Minister Benjamin
Disraeli, and Edward Bullwer-Lytton, the leader of a branch of the English
Rosicrucians, a branch of Rosicrucianism that developed from the Asiatic
Brethren. The Oxford movement was further supported by the Jesuits. Also
involved were the British royal family itself, and many of its leading prime
ministers and aides. Benjamin Disraeli was Grand Master of Freemasonry,
as well as knight of the Order of the Garter. It was in Coningsby, that he
confessed, through a character named Sidonia, modeled on his friend Lionel
de Rothschild, that, “the world is governed by very different personages from
what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.” Of the influence of
the secret societies, Disraeli also remarked, in Parliamentary debate:
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lt is useless to deny. . . a great part of Europe – the whole of Italy and France,
and a great portion of Germany, to say nothing of other countries – are covered
with a network of these secret societies, just as the superficies of the earth is
now being covered with railroads. And what are their objects? They do not
attempt to conceal them. They do not want constitutional government. They do
not want ameliorated institutions; they do not want provincial councils nor the
recording of votes; they want. . . an end to ecclesiastical establishments. . . . 2
    
Bulwer-Lytton was the Grand Patron of the Societas Rosicruciana in
Anglia (SRIA), founded in 1865 by Robert Wentworth Little, and based on the
Asiatic Brethren. Many members of the Asiatic Brethren, or Fratres Lucis,
had become members of a German Masonic lodge called L’Aurore Naissante,
or “the Nascent Dawn”, founded in Frankfurt-on-Main in 1807. It was at this
lodge where Lord Bulwer Lytton was initiated. 3 Bulwer-Lytton, who served
as the head of Britain’s Colonial Office and India Office, was also a practicing
member of the cult of Isis and Osiris. He wrote the Last Days of Pompeii, and
The Coming Race, or Zanoni, in which he set the foundations for later Nazi
racist theories. He became the grandfather of the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood
of John Ruskin, the Metaphysical Society of Bertrand Russell, and occult
societies like the Golden Dawn of Aldous Huxley, and the Theosophical
Society of Madame Blavatsky.
    
In Egypt, the Oxford movement centered on the creation of a “reform”
movement of Islam, known as the Salafi. Initially, the creation of the Salafi
reform movement would serve as an early example of the methods in which
Islamic terrorists were used in the future. As in more recent occurances, the
Islamists were used to provide a pretext for invasion, to safeguard a most
important commodity, oil. Essentially, the Salafi were employed in the
protection of Britain’s growing interest in the Suez Canal, as it would later
become crucial to the shipment of their oil cargo to Europe and elsewhere

-David Livingston, Terrorism and the Illuminati

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10 minutes ago, muir said:

The Salafi

 

Interesting and already known to me, but nothing to do with what I was saying and I resent the false connection.

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2 minutes ago, size of light said:

Interesting and already known to me, but nothing to do with what I was saying and I resent the false connection.

 

ok so lets put another piece of the puzzle down on the table to see how these things all come from the same wellspring...

 

Blavatsky claimed to receive her revelations from “Secret Chiefs”, or
disembodied “Ascended Masters”, who were aiding humanity to evolve into
a race of supermen. At first, Blavatsky attributed names to these Masters, like
“Tuitit Bey”, “Serapis Bey”, and “Hilarion”, who purportedly belonged to the
“Brotherhood of Luxor”. According to Joscelyn Godwin, in The Theosophical
Enlightenment, if we interpret the “Brotherhood of Luxor” to be the coterie
of occultists with which Blavatsky was associated in Egypt, then we ought to
assume Jamal ad-Din al Afghani to have been one of its members. 22
    
Although there is no direct evidence of Blavatsky having met with
Afghani, according to K. Paul Johnson, in The Masters Revealed, circumstances
would suggest such contact. Not only was Afghani familiar with her associates
Sanua and Pashkov, but he and Blavatsky were both in India in 1857 and 1858,
both in Tbilisi in the mid-sixties, and both in Cairo in 1871. Again, Afghani left
Egypt for India in late 1879, the same year that Blavatsky and Olcott arrived
there. After leaving India in late 1882, he resided in Paris throughout 1884, the
year in which Blavatsky spent the summer there.
    
Through Jamal ud Din al Afghani, Blavatsky acquired her central
doctrines, derived from Ismailism, which she would then communicate the
Western occult community. As Johnson points out, in Blavatsky’s article, The
Eastern Gupta Vidy and the Kabbalah, she claims the “real Kabbalah” is to be
found in the Chaldean Book of Numbers. Although it is unknown to scholars,
Blavatsky cites this book frequently in her tomes, Isis Unveiled and The Secret
Doctrine. She claims to have received it from a “Persian Sufi”, and as K. Paul
Johnson points out, Afghani is its most likely source.
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According to Johnson, a fundamental structure in Blavatsky’s doctrines
can only be attributed to one source, which is also related to the ideas of another
occultist, Gurdjieff: Ismaili Gnosticism. The Chaldean Book of Numbers
teaches a sevenfold cosmology similar to the eclectic Ismaili mysticism. “The
centrality of the number seven”, notes Johnson:
...is a major clue which points to Ismaili gnosis as an important source for both
Blavatsky and Gurdjieff. Henri Corbin’s Cyclical Time and Ismaili Gnosis
describes the doctrine of a sevenfold cosmic evolutionary process, repeated
in a sevenfold historical scheme, paralleled by a sevenfold initiatory path for
the individual adept. This corresponds exactly to the Mahatma letters [of
Blavatsky] teaching that “the degrees of an Adept’s initiation mark the seven
stages at which he discovers the secret of the sevenfold principles in nature
and man and awakens his dormant powers.” The doctrine of the Resurrection
acquires a specific meaning in Ismaili gnosis which relates it to Blavatsky’s
teachings. Each of the seven principles of the individual is “resurrected” by
the influence of the next higher principle. HPB’s sevenfold breakdown of
human principles was presented variously as Chaldean, Tibetan, and Chaldeo-
Tibetan. But in fact its closest historical analogue is Ismaili. 23
    
Blavatsky’s teachings also influenced the establishment of a prominent
secret society known as the Golden Dawn, which would emerge out of Afghani’s
contacts with the leaders of Egyptian Rite Freemasonry. Having gone underground
for some time, until 1848, the “Year of Revolutions”, the Egyptian Rite of
Freemasonry then revived its activity in Paris, and by 1856 had also established
itself in Egypt, America, Romania, and other countries. In 1872, when the
Egyptian Rite came to be known as the Antient and Primitive Rite, the Grand
Mastership of the order was assumed by John Yarker, having been handed to him
by Marconis de Negre. Yarker was also familiar with Blavatsky, having met her
in England in 1878, and appears to have conferred on her a Masonic initiation,
though there have been attempts to refute her involvement in Freemasonry.

-Livingston

 

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The Age of Aquarius


Sex, Drugs and Rock ‘n Roll


The combination of intoxicants and music to induce a state of altered
consciousness has been the basis of occult rites since the very beginning. The
use of these intoxicants was perfected by the Assassins, who used marijuana to
create a mind-controlled assassins. Again, these same practices were revived
by the Illuminati through their contacts with their Egyptian Brethren, who
claimed descent from the Ismaili Grand Lodge. These same practices were
the adopted by the Illuminati, in the twentieth century, to serve two ends. The
first was, again, to create the mind-controlled agent-provocateurs, to perpetrate
acts of terror in the name of Islam.
    
The second aspect of this mission is to bring about the wholesale
indoctrination of society as a whole. Important to ensuring the compliance of
Western citizens, or at least ensuring they remain oblivious, to the diabolical
schemes of the Illuminati, was a sophisticated large-scale indoctrination
program, known collectively as the media and entertainment. Specifically,
these devices were exploited to distance Western societies from their formerly-
held Christian morals, which would otherwise motivate them to confront such
a conspiracy. The means of accomplishing this denigration of society were,
essentially, sex and drugs and rock ‘n roll.
    
This strategy, implemented by agents of the Round Table, regarded as
the bringing in the Age of Aquarius. The basis of the occult interpretation of
history is that mankind history is determined by astrological ages. Every two
thousand years or so, we enter into a new astrological age, as the sun rises under
a new sign of the zodiac during the equinox. We are currently in the Age of
Pisces, though we are considered to be about to enter the Age of Aqurius, which
will mark the beginning of a New Age, when occult ideas will gain supremacy.
    
These ideas began to gain popular appeal through the work of
Alice Bailey, who had succeeded Annie Besant as head of the Theosophical
movement. Together with her husband, Foster Bailey, Alice launched Lucifer
Publishing Company, which published the theosophical periodical Lucifer.
Though, they changed the name to Lucis Publishing Company. The work of
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Lucis Trust is carried out through its Arcane School of the occult, and World
Goodwill. Together, they work to implement what is termed “the Plan”, as
was revealed in 24 books written by Bailey, and published by Lucis Trust.
    
Alice Bailey claimed that it as Djwhal Khul, her “Ascended Master”,
actually wrote the books through her while she was in a trance. Another
“Master” Bailey claimed to have been in contact with was the enigmatic Comte
St. Germain, whom she referred to as the “Master Rakoczi”, or the “Master
R.” In Bailey’s The Externalisation of the Hierarchy, his title is said to be the
“Lord of Civilization”. He is said to telepathically influence people who are
seen by him as being instrumental in bringing about the new civilization of
the Age of Aquarius. She said that “sometime after AD 2025”, Master Jesus,
Master Rakoczi, Kuthumi, and the others in the Spiritual Hierarchy would
“externalise”, i.e., descend from their spiritual planes, and live physically on
Earth in ashrams surrounded by their disciples.
    
The focus of “the Plan” she was instructed to pursue is to usher in the
“Harmonic Convergence,” also known as the Omega, Mind Convergence,
Fusion or Turning Point, which can occur only when nations put aside their
differences in a “New World Order” of global unity. When world government
and religion are finally realized, the New Age, or the Age of Aquarius, will have
dawned. Only then will Jesus Christ the Avatar appear, and the implementation
of the New World Order fully begin. This “Christ” is also known as Lord
Maitraya, said to be awaited also by Jews, Moslems, Buddhists, and Hindus,
though he is known by these believers respectively as the Messiah, Imam
Mahdi, the fifth Buddha, or Krishna. Bailey makes it very clear that there is to
also be a world religion:
The spirit has gone out of the old faiths and the true spiritual light is transferring
itself into a new form which will manifest on earth eventually as the new world
religion. ...Judaism is old, obsolete and separative and has no true message
for the spiritually-minded which cannot be better given by the new faiths...the
Christian faith also has served its purpose; its Founder seeks to bring a new
Gospel and a new message that will enlighten all men everywhere. 1
    
The Lucis Trust is run through an international board of trustees,
whose membership is said to have included: John D. Rockefeller, Norman
Cousins, Robert S. McNamara, Thomas Watson, Jr. of IBM, and former U.S.
Ambassador to Moscow, Henry Clauson, a Grand Commander of the Supreme
Council, 33rd Degree, Southern District Scottish Rite, and Henry Kissinger,
thus tying Bailey’s organization into the various Round Table groups, including
the CFR, the Bilderberger group, and the Trilateral Commission. 2
    
The plan would be brought about through the Tavistock Institute and its
MK-Ultra mind-control program, a continuation of the MK-Ultra program. The
basis of this program would be derived from the ancient mind-control techniques
of the Assassins, acquired through their affiliation with the Salafi. 3 These same
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basic methods would be adopted by the Tavistock Institute, but employed on a
mass scale, using “sex and drugs, and rock ‘n roll”, to induce mental states in
their audiences that would open them to specific forms of indoctrination.

-Livingston

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1 minute ago, muir said:

ok so lets put another piece of the puzzle down on the table to see how these things all come from the same wellspring...

 

It's all interesting stuff, just stop trying to connect everything related to the development of higher consciousness with this one particular conspiracy.

 

You might as well be trying to discourage somebody from opening their eyes by describing the invention of sunglasses.

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43 minutes ago, size of light said:

 

It's all interesting stuff, just stop trying to connect everything related to the development of higher consciousness with this one particular conspiracy.

 

You might as well be trying to discourage somebody from opening their eyes by describing the invention of sunglasses.

 

in the context of a thread exploring the nature of satan on a forum geared towards the discussion of a global, occult conspiracy i would say that my points are very relevant

 

perhaps it's yourself that is losing focus...

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1 hour ago, muir said:

 

in the context of a thread exploring the nature of satan on a forum geared towards the discussion of a global, occult conspiracy i would say that my points are very relevant

 

The devil is always in the details.

 

Carry on.

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12 hours ago, Aratron said:

Sounds like a lot of

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waffle

tbh

A bit like most of the things you post then 

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7 minutes ago, Seeker said:

A bit like most of the things you post then 

Quite

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....you can travel when asleep......go places, see things, meet people.....if theres an important meeting coming up in work as an example, you often when 'asleep' can go meet up, and discuss issues, so when the meeting in reality happens, then you have already seen who is who and what they want, or are hiding or are going to say or argue, or even sometimes you feel like you already know someone even if its the first meeting, because you met them on your travels when you been asleep.....it can often help in many situations as you see the real them and their intent which cant easily be hidden, when in reality there are a lot of layers that can cover someones intent.....so its a helpful tool to enable you to be aware, not fall victim or prey to any mischevious dealings and its like being made aware whose ok and whose not, it can be a warning but also can be reassuring....you can do lots of things...go see places, locations.....but when you're awake, there is a danger if you try to do the same travel by attempting to go 'out' of yourself...when you do that you hit the astral plane...which is difficult to navigate before emerging beyond...the safest way is not to project but to go in...when you go inwards..to your inner core there is no astral plane so its a very safe non hazardous place where you can explore, ask, and receive answers safely...sorta round the tummy/ belly area..... or its the sticky astral mess to wade through...like driving on the m25 with two flat tyres,  firing on two cylinders in the pouring rain...not a pleasant experience unless you a first class mechanic who knows how to tune their car  :)))

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On 2/16/2020 at 8:52 AM, Quetzacoatl said:

3B33C244-CB55-4359-9281-5C23853A8744.jpeg.caefd87e74a644516fbcf9c3889dc94f.jpegAre The Devil, Lucifer and Satan the same thing?

 

 

 

No they are not the same 🙂

 

 

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