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This is an open thread to discuss all aspects of the ego. Suggested areas of discussion include:

 

- Why do we have an ego? Does it serve any constructive purpose? Is it needed in some way?

 

- Where did it come from? Is it innate to mankind or something that has developed or been installed over time and, if so, how?

 

- The reptilian part of the brain, including the amygdala.

 

- Separation from source.

 

- Why do differing ideas, beliefs and opinions provoke a fear-based response?

 

- Why does being wrong provoke a fear-based response?

 

 

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Survival, plain and simple. To insure you and your genes (children) get passed on.

A bit of ego is good, it's only a problem when the ego is out of balance (too much or too little).

 

You have some interesting points, somebody will come up with a deeper answer for you.

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2 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

Why do we have an ego? Does it serve any constructive purpose? Is it needed in some way?

 

As far as I have knowledge .... It is the body.

We are 3 different points of 'focus' upon this realm (whilst here) and one is the physical form.

That body form has the ego as a protection engine .... The base nature program which will and does keep the physical form running.

It also (the ego) allows for tremendous endorsement of limited self .... It allows the actions of a natural psychopath to become reality .... but most of 'the natural world' is this limitation.

 

You are also two other aspects .... which do not require the physical form .... thus do not need or have an 'ego'

 

For most, in this place, the ego allows and structures a 'want' to 'be' .... and continue to be thus!

 

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The way I interpret the ego in a spiritual sense is refusing to believe you have been fooled and believing things that are false. Letting go of the ego is willing to have an open mind, learn about everything and see how you have been tricked and manipulated. To maintain the letting go of the ego, we must always keep an open mind and listen to other peoples perspectives. This is what the people who are asleep need to do, and it is happening 1 by 1

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12 hours ago, ty.shakleford said:

Survival, plain and simple. To insure you and your genes (children) get passed on.

A bit of ego is good, it's only a problem when the ego is out of balance (too much or too little).

 

So are you saying that anything that lives needs an ego for survival including plants and animals? If plants and animals have egos, do you think it differs in some way to mankind's ego?

 

One suggestion I have come across is that plants and animals do have egos as a will to seek pleasure, relying on basic instincts without, in contrast to humans, the ability to calculate for future gain and what may derive the most pleasure in the long run. But their ego allows them to live in harmony rather than having the more destructive characteristics of the human ego which could be said to be the source of all conflicts, war and the need for control.

 

I don't see the more destructive human ego as helpful in securing survival if war and conflict results from it as opposed to cooperation and co-creation. Does not the human ego come with the greater risk for its demise through conflict?

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12 hours ago, ty.shakleford said:

Survival, plain and simple. To insure you and your genes (children) get passed on.

A bit of ego is good, it's only a problem when the ego is out of balance (too much or too little).

 

You have some interesting points, somebody will come up with a deeper answer for you.

 

 

How about we pass on our skills to our children like we used to, so they can then chose either to follow in their parents footsteps, or take them with them on their own journey into the unknown.

 

It is because we are de-skilled that we have lost our balance, especially in a post engineering paradigm, where we now have to take whatever our controllers import for us, when we could be dictating what we need or could be creating for ourselves.

 

The crux of the matter is, if you don't breed your lineage comes to an end, you never see true nature doing these kinds of things, it move forward in symbiosis with the planet, breeds when it is suitable and never has wars to try and preserve what comes to all for free.

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41 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

One suggestion I have come across is that plants and animals do have egos as a will to seek pleasure, relying on basic instincts without, in contrast to humans, the ability to calculate for future gain and what may derive the most pleasure in the long run. But their ego allows them to live in harmony rather than having the more destructive characteristics of the human ego which could be said to be the source of all conflicts, war and the need for control.

 

If our closest relations are bonobos and chimpanzees we have inherited both empathetic ego traits from the bonobos and the more aggressive ego trait

from chimpanzees.

 

I haven't read this book, but pages 9 and 10 give some interesting obsertvations.

Bonobo and Chimpanzee: The Lessons of Social Coexistence

Also

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-chimpanzees-can-teach-us-about-ego-taming-our_b_57a299cce4b0456cb7e16f4e

 

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