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12 minutes ago, muir said:

Jordan is saying ................ we are able to in fact make a large impact in the world if we apply our energies correctly

 

form a political party ... yeah yeah... here is where i wave goodbye to the psychology and philosophy

 

the world thrives and survives upon ones energy. its needs ones energy otherwise it is dead.

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Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave

the world announces

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, zArk said:

the world thrives and survives upon ones energy. its needs ones energy otherwise it is dead.

 

yes we need to stop giving our money to the corporate system by buying all of their products and as far as possible shift at every opportunity to alternatives

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Peterson appeals to the intellectualisticals like Noam Chomsky does, but doesnt have the first clue about reality from a truth seeker perspective. In other words hes another gatekeeper pied piper taking your eye off the baal.

 

Against tribalism & identity but fine with tribal Jews. Against white nationalism buts no problem with Zionism.

 

His Jewish question page is pathetic, just like the other shill Stephan Molyneux. Jewish apologist.

He claims Jews are working for the advancement of all of us.

 

This Ashkenazi "SuperJew" IQ fallacy is typical of Zionazi supremacy..

 

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-myth-of-jordan-petersons-integrity.html

 

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1 hour ago, muir said:

yes we need to stop giving our money to the corporate system by buying all of their products and as far as possible shift at every opportunity to alternatives

i was pointing towards our energy as in

 protest, reaction, action, agreement

actually thinking through the world to define onesself or ones circumstance merely empowers the world

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he is more focusd on practical things than conspiracy stuff imo.....

 

while the establishment is attacking yougsters 

he confronted them 

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4 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Peterson appeals to the intellectualisticals like Noam Chomsky does, but doesnt have the first clue about reality from a truth seeker perspective. In other words hes another gatekeeper pied piper taking your eye off the baal.

 

Against tribalism & identity but fine with tribal Jews. Against white nationalism buts no problem with Zionism.

 

His Jewish question page is pathetic, just like the other shill Stephan Molyneux. Jewish apologist.

He claims Jews are working for the advancement of all of us.

 

This Ashkenazi "SuperJew" IQ fallacy is typical of Zionazi supremacy..

 

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-myth-of-jordan-petersons-integrity.html

 

I agree 100%.  What I do not understand is why everyone is searching for another "hero" to tell them something and IMO Peterson is another one of those "white men" aka cryptojew who are actually telling other "white" men that they are victims of something while victimizing them by telling them they are victims.   

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13 minutes ago, Change2 said:

I agree 100%.  What I do not understand is why everyone is searching for another "hero" to tell them something and IMO Peterson is another one of those "white men" aka cryptojew who are actually telling other "white" men that they are victims of something while victimizing them by telling them they are victims.   

 

Alt lite, working to steer the narrative for shekels.

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Change2 said:

I agree 100%.  What I do not understand is why everyone is searching for another "hero" to tell them something and IMO Peterson is another one of those "white men" aka cryptojew who are actually telling other "white" men that they are victims of something while victimizing them by telling them they are victims.   

 

maybe white men do have things to be concerned about in the world the same as other people

 

are you aware that white people have been exploited historically by elites? Are you aware of all the white people who were murdered by the bolsheviks?

 

Are there signs that the west is moving once again in that same direction?

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11 hours ago, zArk said:

so the Euro (11th C) jews have higher i.q .. thats fine and Jordans answer and logic

 

Jordan thinks the system is hunky dorey, the cleverest and hardest working achieve and the stupid and lazy are jobless (and assumes generally the reverse ... the jobless are stupid and lazy, the C.E.Os are clever and hardworking)

the world, for Jordan, is a=ok but it is peoples approach and attitude to the world that is at fault

 

this is the standard voice of materialist philosophy. hes a psychologist

 

i do not see a JP who is questioning reality, questioning the world, questioning the foundation of western society.

 

i do not see a patient popping into Jordans office saying "i am sick of the bullshit rigged system of nepotism and controlled money supply."

and Jordan saying "yes, you got it, the systems rigged"

no... he says "hmm clearly you are not acting in a good beneficial way. stop blaming others for your own failures. look at Lord Sugar... he started on a market stall. lets work out why you are crap and shit at dealing with things"


exactly, Jordan would get bashed on heaps of stuff by a legit crew. 

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1 hour ago, muir said:

 

maybe white men do have things to be concerned about in the world the same as other people

 

are you aware that white people have been exploited historically by elites? Are you aware of all the white people who were murdered by the bolsheviks?

 

Are there signs that the west is moving once again in that same direction?

Sure they do Muir, but no different than any other race.  The difference is that during that time white people have developed an entitlement ideology as if the are better than other races because somehow they suffered more...well I am here to tell you, no one forced white people in the USA to kill Native Americans, no one forced them to take African as slaves, there was always an opt out button here in the USA for white people.  But not for races that were harmed by them.   Hell, white boys are still getting away with rape because judges deem them "coming from a good family"...

Sure there ARE signs that the west is moving in the wrong direction, thanks to tRump and his white supremacist/white nationalist friends...who are going to get the guns taken away from ALL people...As someone who has mixed children, racism is still rampant here in the USA and it isn't black people calling my kids niggers, it is white parents and their white kids, and no one is forcing those white people to do that...RACISM is LEARNED behavior and they learn it FROM their parents who learned it from THEIR parents.  If they have not had enough brains to get some insight about that racism in 2020 it is NO LONGER caused by the ruling elite, it is a CHOICE to be racist.  

 

PS...THOSE BOLSHEVIKS WERE ALSO WHITE PEOPLE.  

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"The difference is that during that time white people have developed an entitlement ideology as if the are better than other races because somehow they suffered more" 

Haven't noticed the above mentioned narrative. Though victimhood wars are indeed going strongly and people of all creeds are still not able to see past their own trauma and self interest







 

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7 minutes ago, rooey said:

"The difference is that during that time white people have developed an entitlement ideology as if the are better than other races because somehow they suffered more" 

Haven't noticed the above mentioned narrative. Though victimhood wars are indeed going strongly and people of all creeds are still not able to see past their own trauma and self interest







 

Have you ever talked to someone whom voted for tRump?  I have talked to a few (family members) and they LITERALLY believe that the slaves from African forced themselves on to white people, and they have no clue that Mexicans who were Native Americans forced back into Mexico during the wars.  I live in an all white GOP town, the white entitlement here is astounding and not even just to other races, to each other also.  But hey, it might be the same in an all white democrat town too, I just have never lived in one to say because I live in a red state.  I will say, it could be the same way with other races as well though, but what I SEE is white entitlement because that is what I am surrounded by.   

 

Also, what I was saying regarding JP is that he is making white men believe they are victims by victimizing them by calling them or convincing them they are victims.  White men are no more victim than any other race/sex and to attempt to CONvince them they are, is in turn causing the victim mentality thus the victimization.  The victim mentality CAUSES the harm because what happens is something called learned helplessness.  Learned helplessness is what is causing the apathy we see today.  What better way to "sterilize" a whole race of men but by convincing them they are victims?  It happened to Native American men, thus why the alcoholism, it happened to the black men, thus what caused drug abuse and separation of family and now it is happening to the white men. What do you think is going to happen to them?  THAT is why I say DO NOT FALL FOR IT.     

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It's hard to tell if he is lying by omission in regards to things like Bolshevism or if he is just afraid to talk about certain facts. He definitely knows more than he lets on though. He will give talks on topics like Solzhenitsyn but leaves out elephant in the room details, The company he keeps seems to mostly be your gatekeeper types too.

 

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16 hours ago, Change2 said:

Sure they do Muir, but no different than any other race.  The difference is that during that time white people have developed an entitlement ideology as if the are better than other races because somehow they suffered more...well I am here to tell you, no one forced white people in the USA to kill Native Americans, no one forced them to take African as slaves,

 

Most white people did not own slaves. A small percentage of the very wealthy ie elite owned slaves and most white people did not kill natives in the americas

 

16 hours ago, Change2 said:

Sure there ARE signs that the west is moving in the wrong direction, thanks to tRump and his white supremacist/white nationalist friends...who are going to get the guns taken away from ALL people...

 

That's because it isn't really 'white supremacists' who are behind trump, it is sabbatean-jews and that is why they are coming for the guns of white people

 

16 hours ago, Change2 said:

As someone who has mixed children, racism is still rampant here in the USA and it isn't black people calling my kids niggers, it is white parents

 

ok and what are black people saying about white people?

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15 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

He definitely knows more than he lets on though. He will give talks on topics like Solzhenitsyn but leaves out elephant in the room details,

 

right so is he boxing clever?

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16 hours ago, Change2 said:

Have you ever talked to someone whom voted for tRump?  I have talked to a few (family members) and they LITERALLY believe that the slaves from African forced themselves on to white people

 

a tiny percentage of white people owned slaves. Most white people were simply farmers who worked the land themselves. meanwhile in africa and the middle east many black and brown people owned slaves

 

The slave trade traces back to sabbatean-jews such as the knights templar network who also controlled the sugar trade

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15 minutes ago, muir said:

 

Most white people did not own slaves. A small percentage of the very wealthy ie elite owned slaves and most white people did not kill natives in the americas

 

 

That's because it isn't really 'white supremacists' who are behind trump, it is sabbatean-jews and that is why they are coming for the guns of white people

 

 

ok and what are black people saying about white people?

Once again, you are forgetting that those sabbatean-jews are WHITE NATIONALISTS.  

EVERY black person that I have ever talked to, including those online, treat me with respect and treat my children with respect.  So no, no blame shifting for you Muir.  Sorry.  

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30 minutes ago, muir said:

 

right so is he boxing clever?


Hard to say because people like that are a gateway to truth for some folks. I guess it depends if he is trying to steer people away from the full truth or just opening peoples eyes to some of the skullduggery so people can investigate these things further on their own. Like many people, I started out with gatekeepers like Alex Jones, but then got pissed when he would say shit like "it's the ChiComs", but anyone with a brain can see who funded the likes of Mao.

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3 hours ago, Change2 said:

Once again, you are forgetting that those sabbatean-jews are WHITE NATIONALISTS. 

 

no they're not 'white nationalists' as they are not working for all white peoples nations. they are working for the state of israel and to achieve that they seek to manipulate the domestic politics of the USA. This requires the controlling of the perceptions of the two polarised demographics which they have created through a dialectic, namely the 'conservatives' and the 'liberals'

 

They do this by advancing policies that each of those sides want. This means that they do pander to white people who are concerned about mass immigration yes but they also control the other side that wants mass immigration. For example what are now called 'neoconservatives' which the jewish journalist bernstein of watergate fame said on public TV were 'jewish neocons' but which i will call sabbateans for greater clarity started out as democrats. They were on the neo-marxist side and switched to the 'right' so that they could influence US foreign policy to always make sure that US foreign policy was ISRAEL FIRST

 

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EVERY black person that I have ever talked to, including those online, treat me with respect and treat my children with respect.  So no, no blame shifting for you Muir.  Sorry.  

 

sure but why would black people be racist towards mixed race children?

 

You seem to be trying to imply that racism is a white problem and i'm saying i disagree. I believe that all humans can be equally shitty towards each other and just as there will be white people making disparaging remarks towards or about black people there will also be black people making disparaging remarks about and to white people. In fact the same is true of supremacists which also come in all skins shades

 

There were those black hebrews who attacked those jewish people in new york recently. Now we can speak about the supremacist doctrines of the lurianic kabbalist sabbatean jews or chabad lubbavitch and about how they have a prophecy that they should rule over all other peoples but the black hebrews have the same idea except they believe that THEY are gods chosen people and that they should rule over everyone else!

 

Its the same mentality and it comes in all wrappings!

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2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Hard to say because people like that are a gateway to truth for some folks. I guess it depends if he is trying to steer people away from the full truth or just opening peoples eyes to some of the skullduggery so people can investigate these things further on their own. Like many people, I started out with gatekeepers like Alex Jones, but then got pissed when he would say shit like "it's the ChiComs", but anyone with a brain can see who funded the likes of Mao.

 

well the funny thing about the dialectic is that either side can point to the other side and make legitimate points about it because there are things actually going on

 

So for example the conservatives could complain about moral reletavism which is going on as part of social engineering and the 'liberals' could complain about corporate tax cuts because that too is going on; the problem is that neither side wants to admit that behind both wings of the dialectic are the same elites who are playing both ends against the middle

 

So with china we can point to its communist roots and there is validity in that argument because their authoritarian government has communistic features and we can point to the expansion of the chinese empire and the one belt one road scheme but if we dig that bit deeper we find that the chinese economic powerhouse has been built up by western neoliberal corporations and by western financing and that mao was himself built up and placed into power by the skull and bonesmen who are behind the CIA

 

This creates a situation where conservatives in the US feel threatened by the growth of chinese authoritarianism and their concerns are legitimate but what they need to do is then recognise that china is really just another outgrowth of the corporate-socialists of wall street

 

To what extent you could call it a 'communist' plot depends on to what extent you believe the technocracy they are building is synonymous with communism because really the conspiracy is a TECHNOCRACY conspiracy and the 'communism' of china is just a wing of a dialectic where western 'neoliberal' ie cartelist 'capitalism' is the other wing but really the same crooks are behind both

 

so whos going to bump the heads of the liberals and conservatives together to get them to both realise that they are being played and that out of their manufactured conflict a third thing is being created ie a technocracy, which will enslave them all?

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25 minutes ago, muir said:

 

well the funny thing about the dialectic is that either side can point to the other side and make legitimate points about it because there are things actually going on

 

So for example the conservatives could complain about moral reletavism which is going on as part of social engineering and the 'liberals' could complain about corporate tax cuts because that too is going on; the problem is that neither side wants to admit that behind both wings of the dialectic are the same elites who are playing both ends against the middle

 

So with china we can point to its communist roots and there is validity in that argument because their authoritarian government has communistic features and we can point to the expansion of the chinese empire and the one belt one road scheme but if we dig that bit deeper we find that the chinese economic powerhouse has been built up by western neoliberal corporations and by western financing and that mao was himself built up and placed into power by the skull and bonesmen who are behind the CIA

 

This creates a situation where conservatives in the US feel threatened by the growth of chinese authoritarianism and their concerns are legitimate but what they need to do is then recognise that china is really just another outgrowth of the corporate-socialists of wall street

 

To what extent you could call it a 'communist' plot depends on to what extent you believe the technocracy they are building is synonymous with communism because really the conspiracy is a TECHNOCRACY conspiracy and the 'communism' of china is just a wing of a dialectic where western 'neoliberal' ie cartelist 'capitalism' is the other wing but really the same crooks are behind both

 

so whos going to bump the heads of the liberals and conservatives together to get them to both realise that they are being played and that out of their manufactured conflict a third thing is being created ie a technocracy, which will enslave them all?

 

And when people try to break away from the dialectic by adopting a third position they get demonized. Clown world.

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10 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

And when people try to break away from the dialectic by adopting a third position they get demonized. Clown world.

 

well you'll have someone or other who is entrenched in one side of the dialectic who will say to you ''but can't you see that they are doing this?''

 

and it's like 'yeah' i can see that they are doing that but can you see that behind and beyond that there are people fueling the fires on both sides?

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