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1 hour ago, muir said:

 

no they're not 'white nationalists' as they are not working for all white peoples nations. they are working for the state of israel and to achieve that they seek to manipulate the domestic politics of the USA. This requires the controlling of the perceptions of the two polarised demographics which they have created through a dialectic, namely the 'conservatives' and the 'liberals'

 

They do this by advancing policies that each of those sides want. This means that they do pander to white people who are concerned about mass immigration yes but they also control the other side that wants mass immigration. For example what are now called 'neoconservatives' which the jewish journalist bernstein of watergate fame said on public TV were 'jewish neocons' but which i will call sabbateans for greater clarity started out as democrats. They were on the neo-marxist side and switched to the 'right' so that they could influence US foreign policy to always make sure that US foreign policy was ISRAEL FIRST

 

 

sure but why would black people be racist towards mixed race children?

 

You seem to be trying to imply that racism is a white problem and i'm saying i disagree. I believe that all humans can be equally shitty towards each other and just as there will be white people making disparaging remarks towards or about black people there will also be black people making disparaging remarks about and to white people. In fact the same is true of supremacists which also come in all skins shades

 

There were those black hebrews who attacked those jewish people in new york recently. Now we can speak about the supremacist doctrines of the lurianic kabbalist sabbatean jews or chabad lubbavitch and about how they have a prophecy that they should rule over all other peoples but the black hebrews have the same idea except they believe that THEY are gods chosen people and that they should rule over everyone else!

 

Its the same mentality and it comes in all wrappings!

Yes, they are white nationalists.  Do you not know what a white nationalist is?. Which oddly enough, so are those Sabbatean Jews just like they are crypto-jews, pretending to be Christians.  

 

Why would WHITE people be racist to mixed children? Why are you attempting to justify WHITE PEOPLE being RACIST TO CHILDREN?   What I am implying is that I have been around black and white people, my children were accepted by black people, they are called names by white people THAT IS MY EXPERIENCE.  Sorry if that bothers you, but that is what I have to offer.  There is no justification in ANY world for being racist to CHILDREN. 

Those black hebrew men were WRONG in every sense of the word.  See how I do not attempt to justify their racism?  WHY?  BECAUSE IT IS WRONG.  End of.  

 

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6 minutes ago, Change2 said:

Yes, they are white nationalists.  Do you not know what a white nationalist is?. Which oddly enough, so are those Sabbatean Jews just like they are crypto-jews, pretending to be Christians.  

 

Why would WHITE people be racist to mixed children? Why are you attempting to justify WHITE PEOPLE being RACIST TO CHILDREN?   What I am implying is that I have been around black and white people, my children were accepted by black people, they are called names by white people THAT IS MY EXPERIENCE.  Sorry if that bothers you, but that is what I have to offer.  There is no justification in ANY world for being racist to CHILDREN. 

Those black hebrew men were WRONG in every sense of the word.  See how I do not attempt to justify their racism?  WHY?  BECAUSE IT IS WRONG.  End of. 

 

i am in no way justifying anyone being racist to anyone else

 

i'm simply saying that i see racism going in all directions. What i'm noticing though is that if people are racist towards white people it doesn't seem to be perceived as as offencive as when the racism is towards non white people

 

I believe this is because of the doctrine of political correctness which speaks about 'privilege'. the logic behind it is that white people must always be perceived as the 'oppressor' and non white people must always be perceived as the 'oppressed'

 

So under this mentality only white people can be racist and if a black person were to say bad things about white people that would not be perceived as racist

 

I'm saying that's BS

 

 

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53 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

And when people try to break away from the dialectic by adopting a third position they get demonized. Clown world.


You don't mean Clown World in this sense do you ?
 

Clown World

 
 
165px-Clown_World_Propaganda.png
 

Honkler
Clown World, Heil Honkler or Honk Honkler is an alt-right, neo-Nazi propaganda meme and dog whistle.[1] The "Honkler" image first appeared on 4chan in February 2019.[2] Clown World and Honkler have been utilized by the alt-right effort to obfuscate racism and hate with seemingly innocuous memes. 
 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Clown_World 

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21 hours ago, Change2 said:

thanks to tRump and his white supremacist/white nationalist friends

 

No he is a builder. Why would he choose to help build the third temple if he was a white nationalist? You know they need to destroy Europeans/Edomites (their words, not mine) before they can build that thing, right? What kind of white nationalist destroys white people? A fake one.

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4 hours ago, Change2 said:

Once again, you are forgetting that those sabbatean-jews are WHITE NATIONALISTS. 

 

How can you say they are white nationalists when they deny they are white. lol

 

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4 minutes ago, Basket Case said:


You don't mean Clown World in this sense do you ?
 

Clown World

 
 
165px-Clown_World_Propaganda.png
 

Honkler
Clown World, Heil Honkler or Honk Honkler is an alt-right, neo-Nazi propaganda meme and dog whistle.[1] The "Honkler" image first appeared on 4chan in February 2019.[2] Clown World and Honkler have been utilized by the alt-right effort to obfuscate racism and hate with seemingly innocuous memes. 
 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Clown_World 

 

If a nasty person drinks water, does that make other people that drink water just like them? I just mean the world is a circus. I don't agree with letting people water down and control our language. I don't care who has used that term, no offense. You might be right that it came from 4chan or something, but are you saying nobody else should use that phrase?

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6 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

How can you say they are white nationalists when they deny they are white. lol

 

i think they have done deep analysis of demographics and they know how to play certain groups of people. They know they can pander to some people through nationalistic sentiment whilst they can pander to others through encouraging a hatred of their nation state (see for example critical theory)

 

i think they seek to control all the avenues and its maybe their efforts on the conservative side of the dialectic that change2 is referring to, but if we see all of that as manipulation of the general populace to achieve certain goals we have to ask ourselves what their overall agenda is?

 

if they really cared about white people in general would they have created such mass impoverishment of the general public through the banking scandals and cheap credit and the orchestrated 'business cycle' which is really just a periodical shearing of the sheep?

 

would they have exposed people to so many harmful endocrine disruptors and microwaves and toxic ingredients in vaccines? would they be sitting back quietly while autism moved from 1 in 10,000 children to 1 in 50?

 

I think not

 

so clearly they are not working for the wellbeing of white people in general. Clearly their agenda is one of CONTROL and that includes control over white people

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5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

If a nasty person drinks water, does that make other people that drink water just like them? I just mean the world is a circus. I don't agree with letting people water down and control our language. I don't care who has used that term, no offense. You might be right that it came from 4chan or something, but are you saying nobody else should use that phrase?


No l'm not saying that nobody else can use that phrase.
l just wanted to clarify, because JP got loads of flack for posing next to a PePe Logo with a fan.
He didn't notice or realise it was a 'thing' or an issue when the photo was taken. 

Yeah, if you're not on the left or right you're a 'clown' according to both sides...cool.

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Clown world is a good meme for expressing your disgust for the insanity we are living in, like the Phillip Schofield limp Britain kind of shit.

Is a good meme.

 

 

 

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Japanese and South Koreans that are included in the UN replacement migration plan, are they evil if they oppose it too? Does this not look like intimidation tactics?


japanshoe.jpg.12982c47ac46606808ef920c703e06b7.jpg

 

Anyway sorry to go off the Jordan Peterson topic.

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1 minute ago, Basket Case said:

Yeah, if you're not on the left or right you're a 'clown' according to both sides...cool.


I'm not saying that. It's dangerous when people can't sit back and laugh at the world though. Surely that would force people to become more radical.

That being said, Voltaire would probably get in trouble for saying this in this generation.

 

"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it." - Voltaire

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11 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Japanese and South Koreans that are included in the UN replacement migration plan, are they evil if they oppose it too? Does this not look like intimidation tactics?

 

the egyptians used to put images of their enemies on the pharoahs shoes so that he was walking on them to symbolise their subjugation

 

david has spoken about the CCTV monitors that were sold by israel to the japanese that were used in the fukishima plant and how they may have contained a weapon that detonated to exacerbate the disaster

 

uranium64_09.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

 

 

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1 minute ago, muir said:

 

the egyptians used to put images of their enemies on the pharoahs shoes so that he was walking on them to symbolise their subjugation

 

david has spoken about the CCTV monitors that were sold by israel to the japanese that were used in the fukishima plant and how they may have contained a weapon that detonated to exacerbate the disaster

 

uranium64_09.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

 

 

 

I shall have to investigate this further. I think I read about Stuxnet possibly having something to do with Fukushima a while back, but I didn't look into it that much. 

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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I shall have to investigate this further. I think I read about Stuxnet possibly having something to do with Fukushima a while back, but I didn't look into it that much. 

 

stuxnet and flame were such expensive viruses that they could only have been created by state actors namely israel and the US and they were deployed against iranian nuclear installations; meanwhile mossad gunned down a number of iranian scientists

 

with fukishima a larger than anticipated tsunami occured because it went over their large defencive wall. A wave like that can be generated through a detonation of a device on the seabed although some people point to HAARP as the originator of the tremor that led to the tsunami

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23 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:



                 Does this not look like intimidation tactics?


japanshoe.jpg.12982c47ac46606808ef920c703e06b7.jpg

 

 


Yes it does.
Considering Japanese culture around shoes this is an open and direct insult.

 

The Importance of Taking your Shoes off in Japan

"So why are the Japanese people so pedantic about taking off their shoes?

The main and most obvious reason is centered around cleanliness.

The climate in Japan is very humid. Back when roads weren’t paved or layered with stones, the Japanese naturally removed their shoes to stop bringing in mud and dirt from the outside. This was especially because houses were made with `tatami` flooring. Which is extremely hard to clean dirt from.

In addition to the above,  for the Japanese, the floor is not just for walking on. They are accustomed to going about their daily activities all from the floor such as eating and sleeping." 
http://alt.npo-glad.org/taking-off-shoes-japan/ 

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Like Germany, Japan is a hard topic to discuss because people will think you're an Axis sympathising nutcase. I just want to know the facts though. Like what was their motivation for bombing Nagasaki for example, seeing as that was the most Christian city in Japan, a place where Christians survived a lot of persecution. It might have had nothing to do with it, but it's worrying when people don't even want to go near these topics. The truth doesn't have a left or a right, but groupthinkers are too scared to step out of their box.

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7 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

Considering Japanese culture around shoes this is an open and direct insult.

 

it seems japan swallowed it so perhaps israel has some strong leverage over japan...

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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Like Germany, Japan is a hard topic to discuss because people will think you're an Axis sympathising nutcase. I just want to know the facts though. Like what was their motivation for bombing Nagasaki for example, seeing as that was the most Christian city in Japan, a place where Christians survived a lot of persecution. It might have had nothing to do with it, but it's worrying when people don't even want to go near these topics. The truth doesn't have a left or a right, but groupthinkers are too scared to step out of their box.


like the bombing of Dresden, in my opinion these bombings make more sense if you consider that the allies and Japanese were actually on the same side. The people who weren't on the same side, were those being conned into fighting and killing each other for their 'countries'.   So during conflict they also carry out social engineering endeavours they couldn't do on such a scale during peace time   

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13 hours ago, muir said:

 

i am in no way justifying anyone being racist to anyone else

 

i'm simply saying that i see racism going in all directions. What i'm noticing though is that if people are racist towards white people it doesn't seem to be perceived as as offencive as when the racism is towards non white people

 

I believe this is because of the doctrine of political correctness which speaks about 'privilege'. the logic behind it is that white people must always be perceived as the 'oppressor' and non white people must always be perceived as the 'oppressed'

 

So under this mentality only white people can be racist and if a black person were to say bad things about white people that would not be perceived as racist

 

I'm saying that's BS

 

 

I have never said that only white people can be racist and I do not know where you are hearing that because I hear white people complaining about other races being racist to them all the time.  BUT...some people and yes, I hear this from WHITE PEOPLE think that calling out their racism is racism.  Meaning if I call out a white person for being racist, they ACTUALLY think that is racism against white people.  

This has nothing to do with political correctness, this has to do with common sense.  There is no mentality that only white people can be racist.   

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13 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

How can you say they are white nationalists when they deny they are white. lol

 

So Steven Miller isn't a white nationalist?  He is Jewish as the day is long...and he is WHITE...because guess what?  ASHKENAZI JEWS ARE WHITE.   Once people accept that, they can see the whole story.  lol

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13 hours ago, muir said:

 

i think they have done deep analysis of demographics and they know how to play certain groups of people. They know they can pander to some people through nationalistic sentiment whilst they can pander to others through encouraging a hatred of their nation state (see for example critical theory)

 

i think they seek to control all the avenues and its maybe their efforts on the conservative side of the dialectic that change2 is referring to, but if we see all of that as manipulation of the general populace to achieve certain goals we have to ask ourselves what their overall agenda is?

 

if they really cared about white people in general would they have created such mass impoverishment of the general public through the banking scandals and cheap credit and the orchestrated 'business cycle' which is really just a periodical shearing of the sheep?

 

would they have exposed people to so many harmful endocrine disruptors and microwaves and toxic ingredients in vaccines? would they be sitting back quietly while autism moved from 1 in 10,000 children to 1 in 50?

 

I think not

 

so clearly they are not working for the wellbeing of white people in general. Clearly their agenda is one of CONTROL and that includes control over white people

I've been saying this ALL ALONG, the controlling elite, could NOT care less about white people, they USE racism as a tool to keep us all separated into little boxes because little boxes are easier to control than big boxes.  

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2 hours ago, Change2 said:

So Steven Miller isn't a white nationalist?  He is Jewish as the day is long...and he is WHITE...because guess what?  ASHKENAZI JEWS ARE WHITE.   Once people accept that, they can see the whole story.  lol

 

We know Ashkenazi Jews are majority white, but they mostly see themselves as a separate race, thanks to Hitlers Nuremberg laws.

Why they accept non white Jews for Aliyah to Israel but not whites.

Right of return laws based on Nuremberg race laws.

Your argument died there.

 

Steve Miller identifies himself as a Jew & doesnt claim to be a white nationalist no.

The left are the ones identifying him as a white nationalist, coz he moves in them circles, which is full of Zionist.

 

But when you dig deeper.

Zionist who set up the alt right, just want to cause racial division in the west & disharmony whilst they get away with building their greater JWO.

 

Moses Hess wanted national socialism for the Jews, Marxism for the gentile.

 

http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt11.html

 

 

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4 hours ago, Change2 said:

I have never said that only white people can be racist and I do not know where you are hearing that because I hear white people complaining about other races being racist to them all the time.  BUT...some people and yes, I hear this from WHITE PEOPLE think that calling out their racism is racism.  Meaning if I call out a white person for being racist, they ACTUALLY think that is racism against white people.  

This has nothing to do with political correctness, this has to do with common sense.  There is no mentality that only white people can be racist.   

 

But you have to question what is racism.

Like in apartheid America or South Africa, slavery..importing blacks as livestock is definitely racism in my eyes, persecution, segregation.. & a lot of whites are in denial of this agreed. They are conditioned from birth from their parents to believe blacks are criminally or simple minded.

I have members in my family who have this mindset.

 

But I dont think having a problem with mass immigration is racist.

I see it as preserving your culture.

Even if it is about colour & people that have a problem with interbreeding.

I believe that is fair enough.

Why should people be persecuted for wanting to be amongst their own??

Muhammed Ali was a strong black nationalist so was Malcom X

Same with Marcus Garvey. Rastafarians believe in repatriation to Africa.

 

Mixing races & cultures, is a divide & rule agenda & mostly caused misery for many generations..its a tool of the colonial Elite.

And in the mean time we have the only racial nationalist apartheid in the world..that calls everyone else racist who dares criticises them.

1948=1984

 

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5 hours ago, Change2 said:

This has nothing to do with political correctness, this has to do with common sense.  There is no mentality that only white people can be racist.   

 

political correctness hasn't got anything to do with commons sense it has to do with neo-marxist attacks on western societies:

Columbia Prof. — Only White People Can Be Racist

Posted by College Insurrection    Tuesday, October 23, 2012 at 8:00am

Student decries program as “microaggression against white people.”

 

The cost of college is escalating, but when scholars are offered inane racialist drivel as an example of professional academic work, the question becomes whether higher education is worth the big bucks.

Charles Rollet,  a student at Northwestern University, reports on a classic example of progressive “reasoning” in The College Fix.

Multicultural scholar Derald Wing Sue, PhD, received a warm welcome at a packed conference room in Evanston’s Garden Hilton Hotel this Thursday morning.

The Columbia psychology professor was invited to hold three 2-hour conferences for Northwestern University that day, two of which were workshops mostly with faculty and staff. The topic? Microaggressions.

According to Sue and other academics, microaggressions are “unintentional expressions of bias,” which target all marginalized groups in society.

 

A student rose up during the question-and-answer session, accusing Sue of bias himself, and stating that his entire speech was a “microaggression against white people.”

 

Sue reacted by quoting Spike Lee’s saying that only white people can be racist.

“Asian-Americans [for example] can discriminate and can oppress on an individual level, but on a systemic level, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, do not have the power to oppress in the way that a white person might do because they have the very institutions that support it,” said Sue.

http://collegeinsurrection.com/2012/10/columbia-prof-only-white-people-can-be-racist/

 

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5 hours ago, Change2 said:

So Steven Miller isn't a white nationalist?  He is Jewish as the day is long...and he is WHITE...because guess what?  ASHKENAZI JEWS ARE WHITE.   Once people accept that, they can see the whole story.  lol

 

no you are wrong to lump all people of pale skin together as one ethnic group. THEY ARE NOT ONE ETHNIC GROUP and they have different histories, cultures and stories

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