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On 3/26/2019 at 10:57 AM, David Stevenson said:

Another shot showing the positions of the landmarks, from the grove to the top of the castle keep nearby it is exactly 66.6 feet below the castle keep.

 

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Often names with Temple in them are historically linked to the Templars

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On 3/27/2019 at 8:25 PM, David Stevenson said:

 

The modern church and other religious factions will have done the same thing, IE, built their own version of the science under the sun upon ancient Druid or even older groves, it is almost gauranteed, as is seen in many places around the world, the old instinct has never really left mankind, because of its natural influences still.

 

These sciences are to be found in every climb upon earth, so much so that I suspect there was a global cabal at the heart of things.

 

Take the Mayan and Inca house and the grand stonework involved, artwork which was seemingly left behind after the possible architechts left them to their devices and saw then go back to living within nature itself, who were these people, nobody knows, but the natives that were greeted by the Spanish certainly never errected those magnificent temples to the sun.

 

Do I think the Masonic doctrines are a religion, absolutely, as is seen in recent pictures I have shared in other threads.

 

In the ariel shot you can also see the castle grounds on the right of picture, here we also have a triangle in the opposite direction, the keep of said castle is orientated exactly mag North, bring these two triangles togather and what does one see.

 

Maybe a new thread all about this is due for scrutiny.

I dont think masonry is a religion. It is a body of knowledge designed to inform people. People have to have a religion before they join, ie, thet they believe in God. I suspect its the closest thing you will get to the ancient mysteries in the context of the period when it was developed, a time when the church had far more power and influence now to crush anything it saw as a threat. If freemasonry was going to replace religion the churches would not have stood for that.

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3 hours ago, 777 said:

I dont think masonry is a religion. It is a body of knowledge designed to inform people.

 

People have to have a religion before they join, ie, thet they believe in God. I suspect its the closest thing you will get to the ancient mysteries in the context of the period when it was developed, a time when the church had far more power and influence now to crush anything it saw as a threat. If freemasonry was going to replace religion the churches would not have stood for that.

 

There is however a common denominator in all of this and it is golden, or the energy of the sun and what is gained through this energy upon earth and directly from nature herself, gold represents the colour of the sun as do every halo/Helios above and behind every graven image or in this case a flesh blood mythology.

 

Temple also has a common denominator in the title Tamon, these were sdminsitrative buildings where all the records/bools of commerce were to be found, and the very first to be captured during empire making, here is where the first monies were minted with great pomp, IE, Cere-Money, Cerealia/ceremony.

 

It is said that to be a member one must believe, the word believe can mean anything, any deity, etc, see, picture below where the rules are laid out, which are exactly the same rhetoric as a religion and creator/great architect, another common demominator and or religion.

 

Obliged = Not compulary,

 

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To see the common denominators one has to see the links to nature, and mythology.

 

IE,

 

Boaz and Jachin explained, a common demoniator of this science and the inner portico of their religion,

 

Here we have the two pillars of the ideology, those pillars are the two Cardinal points of the compass adjoined by the ecliptic itself from Cerealia in spring over to the Cornucopia in September, where the sun crosses up above the equetorial/cardo opening and again below the equator in September, the seven sections in between in the months of the Northern Hemisphere, this science is Northern based.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerealia

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundantia

 

Or the modern depiction of The Cornucopia, all are cellebrations within nature under the sun and stars, and still in vogue today, this is one astronomical clock that cannot be altered, only the minds of those who believe in what is sympathetic magic.

 

In this version of Because We Believe are a few clues, especially at the end with the wo-men in white, or the ancient torch light precession, light being the catylist.

 

 

 

The same anology can be gleaned in this wonderful artwork by Thomas Hart Benton, we are all part of the tree of life,

 

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All have a common denominator which is nature under the sun.

 

The simple answer is, We were all born to shine, each and every one of us are unique, we are all gods in our own right and it can only be taken away from us if we believe we are not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 3/5/2019 at 8:21 PM, Astraldruid said:

Rupert looks barely conscious, to me.

 

He is in his mid seventies and can explain a line of reasoning better than most. The first half of the talk is firm ground and he's spoken of it before but the second half is a bit shakey and new hence the glancing to his hastily written notes on the back of an envelope and slight hesitancy there probably as a result of subliminally hearing the wicker sided ox cart outside being revved up to take him away to a place of burning.  :classic_smile:

 

A better line to finish on might be a discussion of how humanity/governments would cope if the Sun did announce it was conscious. 😎

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Interesting thread..

Whenever there is a coronal mass ejection on the Sun there is a simultaneous ejection stream of energy particulates that beam from Earth towards the CME. 

Much like lightning strikes where stringers often emanate from the ground skywards followed by a lightning strike directed at that area on the ground.

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Recent missions should acquire more insight into the complex and unpredictable interactions betweek the Sun and Her solar system and it would be nice to see them all modelled in HD computer graphics.

 

Meanwhile the second close pass of the Parker mission occured recently with the Sun firing a small cme from the current active region on the 4th of April (on the far side left as we see it. which probably impinged on the probe at the last possible time before the cme would have also interacted with the Earth. That same active region/sunspot then quietly tracked round to the Venus/Mercury facing side before firing another sequence in the direction of the probe on the 20th mentioned here and again missing the Earth.

 

 


https://iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov/IswaSystemWebApp/iSWACygnetStreamer?timestamp=2038-01-23+00%3A44%3A00&window=-1&cygnetId=261

 

With the Cactus recording of the event here.


http://www.sidc.oma.be/cactus/out/CME0003/CME.html

 

 

 

Several other  weaker cmes happened around the period of close approach and two swallows do not a Summer make but there's plenty of time ahead to if this develops.

 


With references back to here :-

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=322531&highlight=parker+probe

https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=319742&highlight=oumuamua

https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=317710&highlight=sun+conscious

 

 

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She seems to be really "warming to the task" of controlling the weather now with the addition of some secondary cloud seeding (and possibly lightning seeding) as well as trolling the SDO team with a suite of interesting activity including a very slow cme that passed just behind Earth's orbital position.

 

 

Certainly the wrong time for the human species to distract Her.

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Its like our Sun is perfert for our solar system, 

Do different Stars consciously create their own perfect system of planets and moons. life on earth would not of happened without our Sun 

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On 4/14/2019 at 6:47 PM, Guest David Stevenson said:

 

Obliged = Not compulary,

 

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I don’t know where you read that.

 

OBLIGE

To bind morally or legally.

 

That definition completely wrecks your theory!

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1 hour ago, Reinold said:

 

I don’t know where you read that.

 

OBLIGE

To bind morally or legally.

 

That definition completely wrecks your theory!

his acc is closed.....

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On 6/30/2019 at 6:57 PM, Scott Kirkland said:

Its like our Sun is perfert for our solar system, 

Do different Stars consciously create their own perfect system of planets and moons. life on earth would not of happened without our Sun 

 

Even before such considerations current theories of a purely gravitational driven model of the Universe have come under severe challenge. If dark matter isn't found  by  Wednesday week just after early closing someone should cut their funding.:classic_smile:

 

But seriously we don't know enough about the nearest star to Earth and how it drives life on the planet. Recent missions may shed some more light but an array of satellities specifically for monitoring the ionized elements in the plasma that continually streams from the Sun might be in urgent order.

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Maybe we should ask materialist skeptics what they think about the OP question, since they're the ones convinced that the Sun at least creates consciousness.

 

Without it, there wouldn't be any brains to produce this so-called epiphenomenon.

 

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With reference to previous mention of asking the Sun to show conscious awareness perhaps by interacting with the Probe launched last year.

 

Well the Parker probe made it's third scheduled close pass of the Sun just recently. In the first She fired two small cme's on the far side at it and during the second the cme's went to the right and left as we view the Sun at an approaching and receding probe. There were incidental huffs and puffs around at that time that time.


For the third pass the logging shows She was both quiet before and after the pass in this solar minimum period before the next cycle starts.


August: http://sidc.oma.be/cactus/catalog/LASCO/2_5_0/qkl/2019/08/latestCMEs.html
Cme007: http://sidc.oma.be/cactus/catalog/LASCO/2_5_0/qkl/2019/08/CME0007/CME.html


September: http://sidc.oma.be/cactus/catalog/LASCO/2_5_0/qkl/2019/09/latestCMEs.html
Cme001: http://sidc.oma.be/cactus/catalog/LASCO/2_5_0/qkl/2019/09/CME0001/CME.html

 

One should qualify that data  by saying the Lasco2 instrument resides on the SOHO craft at a Lagrange point between Earth and Sun and the data received and Cactus logging of it is fully automated. So there may be errors but it's very unlikely for 2 to occur in quick succession. Such small cme's are not all related to Sunspots though one fired up a few days later and then diminished.


The wsa-enlil website that had the position of the probe marked as well as cmes doesn't always work nor logs the smaller cme's' but the probe position can be cross referenced with this orbit timeline (in HD to read the dates) which hasn't changed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdRsH4kdhHM

 

 The probe carries a small amount of fuel to automatically keep the shield Sun facing. Constant cme's aimed at it may over time exhaust that reserve before mission ends.  Information coming out from the project on status and data processing is sparse.

 


All these interactions have so far avoided going on to strike the Earth which could be also indicative of awareness.


The only confirmatory data of these events are some other satellites and from the probe itself which will reach it's mission end in 2025 which should be be solar maximum for the next cycle. Of course the mission aims are based on current accepted science of the Sun having a nuclear core. They have not yet explained how the various Sun cycles are interacting with this core or the nature of the corona and some have suggested that the probe will fall short of being in the right place to  log the required data.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N3J_X5hD8M

 

Mind you if it get's to 2025 and all they have to show for it is some great pics and the knowledge that the Sun fires cme's whenever the probe gets close that will do fine.:classic_smile:

 

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On 9/9/2019 at 10:36 PM, serpentine said:

With reference to previous mention of asking the Sun to show conscious awareness perhaps by interacting with the Probe launched last year.

 

Well the Parker probe made it's third scheduled close pass of the Sun just recently. In the first She fired two small cme's on the far side at it and during the second the cme's went to the right and left as we view the Sun at an approaching and receding probe. There were incidental huffs and puffs around at that time that time.


For the third pass the logging shows She was both quiet before and after the pass in this solar minimum period before the next cycle starts.

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Correction needed there:

 

In the second pass of it's spirographic descent the probe had a cme fired on the left side as it came round that side then passed betwixed Sun and Earth and  later with the same active area tracking it round the Sun then fired a cme at it as it receeded on the right side as we look at Her.

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