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A few issues regarding David Icke's theories.

 

I've read a lot of his work & watched his lectures and still cannot find a clear logical answer.

 

 

Some points and the question David Icke never answers in his books:

 

 

* Draco is 148-309 light years from Earth with 3 stars.

 

* The inter dimensionals must have travelled beyond the speed of light, yet physically as we know it, is impossible to.

 

* To travel close to the speed of light may not even be possible anatomically anyway. In the Hadron Collider they speed up particles today to the speed of light. Though as a human race ever finding intelligent life in this galaxy out of another possible immediate hundreds of millions of star systems to 2.1 trillion galaxies on top of that is impossible, yet we're ONLY in THE MILKY WAY. The distance is too vast and for solid life forms to visit us too, given it takes 100,000 light years in diameter to cross the milky way, 8.3 light minutes from our sun to the earth, 4.1 light hours from our sun to Neptune, nearest star and exo planet in the habitable zone 4.25 light years - proxima centauri and proxima b, what of 100 light years let alone 100,000?!

 

* Their technology must be far superior than even 10-30,000 equivalent years ahead of ours. It must be much more advanced than that considering the concept of travelling beyond light speed is beyond comprehension and currently known as physically impossible.

 

* Their technology is so advanced to the point they can travel beyond the speed of light whilst also being able to shift electromagnetic frequency at will (but not for long), travelling inter dimensionals via portals from other electromagnetic dimensions undiscovered (where particles which travel beyond the speed of light is a characteristic phenomena) outside of the tiny visibility of light spectrum, and temporarily permeate this dimension to influence the occult practitioner via genetic manipulation for interbreeding.

 

 

Questions concerning David Icke's theories and 'Culling The Population' lecture:

 

 

Q. After many thousands of years, why did the interbreeding lines not proliferate overtly, take over thus depopulate the human race a long time ago (via any means possible) when human technology was still in the dark ages?

 

 

Q. If inter dimensional Reptilians intervening for thousands of years already then why has the population of the human race been allowed to explode in great numbers, considerably recently since two major world wars, long after the supposed hijack/schism and on-going moon manipulation?

 

 

Therefore, one would conclude that the inter dimensional Reptilians and Hybrids have failed to stop the global population explosion.

 

 

Q. If human life unto inter dimensional reality is like a rubicon, whereby one crosses the physical line, things/information moves very fast, but why has it taken so long for the inter dimensional reptilians and human-hybrids to take control of the planet completely, yet at the same time failing to cull the population explosion after two major world wars?

 

 

In Moon theory and other examples Icke refers to Russian discoveries and scientists.

 

 

Q. It's taken thousands of years to get to the modern industrial revolution whereby the beginnings of atomic power have only just been realized, and yet the hybrids/inter dimensionals/full bloods have knowledge tens of thousands of years advanced to our civilization (of what's in the public domain). Why didn't this alien force radiate the planet earlier, and via the moon matrix to beam rays and alter the atmosphere to allow for more radiation? Simply, why didn't they depopulate the earth 100's of years ago, prior to the leap of the industrial revolution and population explosion?

 

 

Population of continents.

 

 

Q. If depopulation programs are in place, through vaccinations and other aspects, then why is the population of Africa exploding at the rate it is?

 

 

The Radiation Agenda - the hybrid and full bloods.

 

 

Q. If there is an agenda to radiate the atmosphere, because the inter dimensionals taking a reptilian form exist in origin of a far greater radiated atmosphere (cosmic radiation) elsewhere in the galaxy, located perhaps many hundreds of light years away, then are hybrids & full bloods (the royal family) radiated? Are the royal families of this world radiated? If the Windsors are radiated, according to science, surely their ability to maintain their existence would be cut short over the long term? Does Icke's theory of a radiation agenda make any sense given the contradictory elements involved?

 

 

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Basically three questions there , Robo ...

 

1 ... From all the many sources we have it appears faster than light speed is definitely possible and widely used ....portals are also used , these occur naturally and can be created with tech  , beyond doubt time travel also , despite the logical paradoxes this creates ....

 

2 ... My understanding is it is not the plan of the reps to depopulate the Earth ... Humans are the most valuable resource here ... No more than a sheep farmer wants to kill all his flock , he wants numbers to expand for wool .. meat ....

The cabal do put toxins in the vaccines , to dumb us down , and cause cancer , but the aim is to produce cancer near the end of life after breeding and so does not effect the population numbers  , it;s a wealth extracting mechanism for big pharma .. Vaccines are also used to target specific third world countries. 

As for wars , they enjoy the distress this causes , but it has negligible effect on population , it does slow our economic development , which is important for cabal .

 

3.... I'm not sure what your referring to by radiation???  

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The system in which we live is estimated to be no older that 5 billion years. That means it's taken that length of time for life to commence and for that life to leave the planet surface and enter near space. How long it would take from moving from the near space of the home planet to the near space of a planet in another system I can't imagine but even at slow sub light speeds it will be a relatively fast step.

 

Now there are stars (and planets)  in the galaxy at least two and a half times the age of the Sun that have been already been found out there.

 

Putting these two facts together might indicate there could be spacefaring species out there that might be around two and half billion years older than hominids and all bets are off in respect of their nature and capabilities.

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2 hours ago, serpentine said:

The system in which we live is estimated to be no older that 5 billion years. That means it's taken that length of time for life to commence and for that life to leave the planet surface and enter near space. How long it would take from moving from the near space of the home planet to the near space of a planet in another system I can't imagine but even at slow sub light speeds it will be a relatively fast step.

 

Now there are stars (and planets)  in the galaxy at least two and a half times the age of the Sun that have been already been found out there.

 

Putting these two facts together might indicate there could be spacefaring species out there that might be around two and half billion years older than hominids and all bets are off in respect of their nature and capabilities. 

 

4.25 light years to the nearest habitable zone. 148-309 light years to where Icke and others state the Draco constellation is - home of the Reptilians.

 

That is travelling at light speed which is anatomically impossible, physically. The entities are inter dimensional and non-solid. They would have to travel beyond the speed of light on an electro magnetosphere as yet undiscovered. There is also R-theory scientists are recently theoretically come up with, that allows for particles to appear simultaneously in two different locations, beyond the speed of light. This is all theoretical.

 

Physically, light speed is impossible as we know it.

 

At slower sub light speeds this would still be SLOW in terms of inter dimensional travel. Unless the authorities are lying about the near cosmos and actual aliens of a physical and inter dimensional form are ALREADY within our immediate star system.

 

However, cosmic radiation would create a situation whereby such exposure to gamma radiation would make life impossible. Astronauts have problems. Hence, the habitable zone 4.25 light years away.

 

 

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4 hours ago, oz93666 said:

Basically three questions there , Robo ...

 

1 ... From all the many sources we have it appears faster than light speed is definitely possible and widely used ....portals are also used , these occur naturally and can be created with tech  , beyond doubt time travel also , despite the logical paradoxes this creates ....

 

2 ... My understanding is it is not the plan of the reps to depopulate the Earth ... Humans are the most valuable resource here ... No more than a sheep farmer wants to kill all his flock , he wants numbers to expand for wool .. meat ....

The cabal do put toxins in the vaccines , to dumb us down , and cause cancer , but the aim is to produce cancer near the end of life after breeding and so does not effect the population numbers  , it;s a wealth extracting mechanism for big pharma .. Vaccines are also used to target specific third world countries. 

As for wars , they enjoy the distress this causes , but it has negligible effect on population , it does slow our economic development , which is important for cabal .

 

3.... I'm not sure what your referring to by radiation???  

 

1. Agreed, faster than light via an undiscovered electro magnetic/frequency sphere is the only way to traverse such distances in the galaxy. Currently, scientists believe time travel is only possible going forward, and impossible backwards.

 

2. Keeping it to David Icke, he has done lectures on Agenda 21/30 and depopulation. If such points he makes are true then why aren't such questions below answered?

 

3. ALL OVER YOUTUBE and in his books Icke mentions the reptilian agenda to radiate the planet, for the atmosphere to be altered, so they can populate whilst humans depopulate. This is based on the premise given the exposure to cosmic gamma radiation would be far higher in regions such as Draco 148-309 light years away. When you put simple two and two together the royal families and elite are hybrids and full bloods. If a more radiated atmosphere in future, vastly lowering and degrading the human population, then logically it would also wipe out those bloodlines too given they are still of human tissue subject to entropy radiation would cause. If Icke's theory about an atmospheric radiation agenda is true then are families such as the Windsors radiated? It all seems a bit absurd.

 

These are questions to Icke's theories he does not answer and is not clear on in his work.

 

He has not answered these questions clearly:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Q. After many thousands of years, why did the interbreeding lines not proliferate overtly, take over thus depopulate the human race a long time ago (via any means possible) when human technology was still in the dark ages?

 

 

Q. If inter dimensional Reptilians intervening for thousands of years already then why has the population of the human race been allowed to explode in great numbers, considerably recently since two major world wars, long after the supposed hijack/schism and on-going moon manipulation?

 

 

Therefore, one would conclude that the inter dimensional Reptilians and Hybrids have failed to stop the global population explosion.

 

 

Q. If human life unto inter dimensional reality is like a rubicon, whereby one crosses the physical line, things/information moves very fast, but why has it taken so long for the inter dimensional reptilians and human-hybrids to take control of the planet completely, yet at the same time failing to cull the population explosion after two major world wars?

 

 

In Moon theory and other examples Icke refers to Russian discoveries and scientists.

 

 

Q. It's taken thousands of years to get to the modern industrial revolution whereby the beginnings of atomic power have only just been realized, and yet the hybrids/inter dimensionals/full bloods have knowledge tens of thousands of years advanced to our civilization (of what's in the public domain). Why didn't this alien force radiate the planet earlier, and via the moon matrix to beam rays and alter the atmosphere to allow for more radiation? Simply, why didn't they depopulate the earth 100's of years ago, prior to the leap of the industrial revolution and population explosion?

 

 

Population of continents.

 

 

Q. If depopulation programs are in place, through vaccinations and other aspects, then why is the population of Africa exploding at the rate it is?

 

 

The Radiation Agenda - the hybrid and full bloods.

 

 

Q. If there is an agenda to radiate the atmosphere, because the inter dimensionals taking a reptilian form exist in origin of a far greater radiated atmosphere (cosmic radiation) elsewhere in the galaxy, located perhaps many hundreds of light years away, then are hybrids & full bloods (the royal family) radiated? Are the royal families of this world radiated? If the Windsors are radiated, according to science, surely their ability to maintain their existence would be cut short over the long term? Does Icke's theory of a radiation agenda make any sense given the contradictory elements involved?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Robo Newt said:

 

4.25 light years to the nearest habitable zone. 148-309 light years to where Icke and others state the Draco constellation is - home of the Reptilians.

 

That is travelling at light speed which is anatomically impossible, physically. The entities are inter dimensional and non-solid. They would have to travel beyond the speed of light on an electro magnetosphere as yet undiscovered. There is also R-theory scientists are recently theoretically come up with, that allows for particles to appear simultaneously in two different locations, beyond the speed of light. This is all theoretical.

 

Physically, light speed is impossible as we know it.

 

At slower sub light speeds this would still be SLOW in terms of inter dimensional travel. Unless the authorities are lying about the near cosmos and actual aliens of a physical and inter dimensional form are ALREADY within our immediate star system.

 

However, cosmic radiation would create a situation whereby such exposure to gamma radiation would make life impossible. Astronauts have problems. Hence, the habitable zone 4.25 light years away.

 

 

 

The point about how ancient a spacefaring species could be is that they would not only be technologically advanced, their physical bodies and minds will be highly evolved too, the former even being genetically designed and not necessarily fixed with individuals (if such a concept still exist for them) capable of moving their centres of perception to any number of forms including bio ships that may have been original genetically engineered but may then have evolved in their own way. Such ships could actually use cosmic rays and insterstellar dust as a means sustenance and propulsion. The powerful minds of the species may ( after spending aons in the space environment) may have  evolved be able to travel without moving much like the guild navigators in Dune but without the drugs. :classic_smile:

 

As to their spiritual outlook and why they would bother to explore the galaxy and beyond who knows.

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What's any of that got to do with the questions asked regarding depopulation and radiation?

 

Getting the feeling that Icke's fan base aren't intellects neither logical with questions regarding his theories.

 

Otherwise it's just mental illness.

 

The point is I cannot find an answer to the questions I have regarding depopulation agenda 21/30 and radiation agenda in any of his books or lectures.

 

Also, there's more information that is of another question regarding David Icke's associations entirely, concerning Australia.

 

David Icke was promoted and interviewed by an Australian guy called Lucius Borich - drummer for prog rock band Cog and producer.

 

Lucius Borich is a long time friend and close associate of Ash Rothschild - a direct descendant of the Rothschild banking family.

 

Lucius played in an award winning band with Ash Rothschild in Australia during the 90's as well. Well before he jumped on the David Icke bandwagon.

 

Over a few years Borich has removed his interviews and name associated with David Icke from the web entirely, possibly knowing that Jewish groups would eventually ban him.

 

Lucius has a strong reputation in Australian music and obviously has associations of people with Jewish heritage.

 

Why was he promoted in the first place in Australia by people closely associated to the Rothschilds?

 

According to Icke's theories Ash Rothschild would be a hybrid or full blood considering the genetics.

 

Ash Rothschild's father David is a well respected businessman and highly successful real estate sales person.

 

Again, more questions surrounding David Icke and his theories...

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If nobody can answer the questions, clearly as they are and succinctly, regarding the timing of depopulation and the radiation agenda in relation to hybrids and full blood genetics, then I'm pretty sure I have debunked David Icke.

 

The other information re Rothschild descendants and associations just adds to factors.

 

I've noticed Icke doesn't discuss 'everything one needs to know' regarding government and so-called healthcare etc.

 

Aside from being banned from Australia and allowed elsewhere to speak, the reason I feel Icke hasn't been truly 'gotten at' by the authorities - in terms of actual physical violence regarding his theories, if true - is due to two factors:

 

1. His theories can be debunked and the government and senior elite know this, so they can ban him for anything deemed antisemitic/hate speech (new laws and progressive attitudes), and write him off as just another savvy nutter selling products and events (ie. if Icke fully knows he is fraudulent then he realizes he has legal rights to his work and has a legal framework in which to operate).

 

2. He's never investigated or gotten involved in realms of human trafficking, abuse rings, and all those other criminal aspects because of the immediate risk to life, and he has a family.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Robo Newt said:

If nobody can answer the questions, clearly as they are and succinctly, regarding the timing of depopulation and the radiation agenda in relation to hybrids and full blood genetics, then I'm pretty sure I have debunked David Icke.

 

The other information re Rothschild descendants and associations just adds to factors.

 

I've noticed Icke doesn't discuss 'everything one needs to know' regarding government and so-called healthcare etc.

 

Aside from being banned from Australia and allowed elsewhere to speak, the reason I feel Icke hasn't been truly 'gotten at' by the authorities - in terms of actual physical violence regarding his theories, if true - is due to two factors:

 

1. His theories can be debunked and the government and senior elite know this, so they can ban him for anything deemed antisemitic/hate speech (new laws and progressive attitudes), and write him off as just another savvy nutter selling products and events (ie. if Icke fully knows he is fraudulent then he realizes he has legal rights to his work and has a legal framework in which to operate).

 

2. He's never investigated or gotten involved in realms of human trafficking, abuse rings, and all those other criminal aspects because of the immediate risk to life, and he has a family.

 

 

Yaaaaay! Youve single handedly debunked David Icke!!

Youre so clever and intelligent, what an amazing mind you have!! (sorry for all the exclamation marks but your exquisite genius excites me)

Who are you going to debunk next Ruperts Ego?

I cant wait,  will you be doing someone as high profile as Icke in the conspiracy field or are you going to debunk a scientist like that prick Brian Cocks, I know he is on the BBC so probably right about everything he says but he clearly not a patch on you and your 'PENETRATING' mind! So go and hammer the cocks for us all to marvel at ..I really cant wait.

 

Go, Newto!!

 

 

( dont worry your socks are safe with me,I wont tell anyone, I changed a letter in one of your other usernames so that only someone of ultra-high intellect as yourself would be able to work it out, its clearly way to sophisticated for these other posters) 

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" (dont worry your socks are safe with me,I wont tell anyone, I changed a letter in one of your other usernames so that only someone of ultra-high intellect as yourself would be able to work it out, its clearly way to sophisticated for these other posters)"

 

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT BUDDY.... I'm not out to get you or David Icke..

 

I'm a genuine person with a genuine authentic email contact on this forum with my full name.

 

I have genuinely read David Icke's books, spent good money on them, gone into his theories and watched all of lectures on Youtube.

 

I CANNOT FIND the answers to my direct succinct questions with regards to David Icke's theories... so it makes me come to other various conclusions, about David Icke, politically, cult following, the era we live in, and in terms of authorship.

 

I HOPE that you did CLEARLY read what I posted and the questions concerning this.

 

I don't want to hang onto ideas which are delusions.

 

If Icke or a follower of his work who truly understands things has answers then I want to hear them.

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There's no point being defensive and upset in the face of genuine open minded questioning regarding David Icke's work.

 

All it shows is where you're at in terms of 'consciousness' and all of that stuff Icke talks about.

 

I'm finding that the quality of his readership here is not of questioning minds neither of high quality.

 

Don't take that too personally, this is regarding his theories.. if you or anyone have VALID worthy answers to these questions then I will be open minded enough to value them and perhaps put my questions regarding David Icke TO REST.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Robo Newt said:

* Their technology must be far superior than even 10-30,000 equivalent years ahead of ours. It must be much more advanced than that considering the concept of travelling beyond light speed is beyond comprehension and currently known as physically impossible.

 

20 years ago, I wrote a 3D graphics engine in C++ and x86 Assembly. I did it from scratch. I did not use any 3rd party library for the rendering or rasterization. There wasn't any code dedicated to physics and so, by that nature, the end result was unhindered by any constraints. I could, for instance, modify the code that would allow me to traverse the scene as an observer at any speed I choose. I could call those speeds anything I want (light speed, super fast speed, super duper lightening speed, etc). Until I added collision detection between objects, objects could pass through each other. There weren't many limitations. 

 

I implemented a scripting language to go along with it that would allow me to dynamically alter the scene in real-time. I could create objects in the scene with certain properties, position them around, add some code to modify their behavior in relation to other objects, etc. I could make objects stretch, bend, scale, appear, disappear, and then re-appear with just a few adjustments here and there to their local and world coordinate systems in the class that represented the object that was scripted.  It was a fun project and I learned quite a bit. 

 

As an adult, I came across a quote from Tesla (we have all seen it at some point or another and I believe David Icke mentions it frequently): “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” 

 

Couldn't the underlying "code" of reality be energy, frequency and vibration? What if a more advanced species had such an understanding of this that they could possibly modify the "code" of reality on the fly, thereby bypassing any constraints that may be defined as the "physical" constraints of reality? 

 

I am admittedly not a scientist nor a physicist; however, it would seem that if reality was constructed from something similar to code, then the end-result which we experience as, say, 3D reality, could be modified and changed on the code level and would be unhindered by any constraints since the constraints are just simply rules as expressed in the code. They could be defined and then changed by the developer, or creator, of that code and/or perhaps by an advanced entity with a deep understanding coupled with an ability to modify it as well. 

 

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2 hours ago, Robo Newt said:

If nobody can answer the questions, clearly as they are and succinctly, regarding the timing of depopulation and the radiation agenda in relation to hybrids and full blood genetics, then I'm pretty sure I have debunked David Icke.....

 

You are duplicating, repeating  posts !!! 

 

You ask about Agenda 21 .... from Wikipedia page on this ... "Anti-Agenda 21 conspiracy theories have circulated in the U.S. Some Tea Party movement activists and others promoted the notion that Agenda 21 was part of a UN plot to deny property rights, undermine U.S. sovereignty, or force citizens to move to cities.... "   We must remember Icke does not stand alone on this ... Mainly Agenda 21 is seen as a plan to herd humans into compact cities and control them in other ways ... increasing population is given as the reason for this , but this directive does not seriously seek to limit population growth , the controllers know population is driven totally by economic factors , once a country achieves a reasonable standard of living birth rates decline , all western countries have declining populations  (excluding immigration)...

 

You have still failed to specify or give a link to what you mean regarding Icke and radiation ... so I put "Icke radiation" in search , this is the first video I got ..4mins long , I can find nothing I disagree with in that ....

 

 

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Patrick Herbert said:

 “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” 

 

Couldn't the underlying "code" of reality be energy, frequency and vibration? What if a more advanced species had such an understanding of this that they could possibly modify the "code" of reality on the fly, thereby bypassing any constraints that may be defined as the "physical" constraints of reality? 

 

I am admittedly not a scientist nor a physicist; however, it would seem that if reality was constructed from something similar to code, then the end-result which we experience as, say, 3D reality, could be modified and changed on the code level and would be unhindered by any constraints since the constraints are just simply rules as expressed in the code. They could be defined and then changed by the developer, or creator, of that code and/or perhaps by an advanced entity with a deep understanding coupled with an ability to modify it as well.

 

 

Fair point.

 

Though in terms of what Icke has clearly stated in one Youtube lecture "it's like a rubicon where you move beyond the physical and things go very fast".. he explains that the Reptilian inter dimensionals and hybrids/full bloods are extremely limited here on the physical plane.

 

Though logically, all theories have to be questioned and though through.

 

You've got to at some point accept the dynamics of the physical world on earth within this star system, inclusive of radiation factors.

 

This still does not explain why the global population has EXPLODED after two major world wars.

 

This still does not explain how the bloodlines of royalty, government, corporate throughout the globe etc could exist therefore allow for a radiated atmosphere within such a short duration of time - physically.

 

You're implying that these bloodlines have a 'code' concerning energy, frequency, vibration, of which could adapt to these circumstances quite easily.

 

Though there a HEAVY contradictions concerning laws of physics and the physical with regards to heat death and entropy of matter.

 

We are the only planet in this region away from the nearest habitable zone that has livable life on it, protection from cosmic radiation and gamma rays plays a MAJOR factor in it.

 

Interesting point though...

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34 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

 

You are duplicating, repeating  posts !!! 

 

You ask about Agenda 21 .... from Wikipedia page on this ... "Anti-Agenda 21 conspiracy theories have circulated in the U.S. Some Tea Party movement activists and others promoted the notion that Agenda 21 was part of a UN plot to deny property rights, undermine U.S. sovereignty, or force citizens to move to cities.... "   We must remember Icke does not stand alone on this ... Mainly Agenda 21 is seen as a plan to herd humans into compact cities and control them in other ways ... increasing population is given as the reason for this , but this directive does not seriously seek to limit population growth , the controllers know population is driven totally by economic factors , once a country achieves a reasonable standard of living birth rates decline , all western countries have declining populations  (excluding immigration)...

 

You have still failed to specify or give a link to what you mean regarding Icke and radiation ... so I put "Icke radiation" in search , this is the first video I got ..4mins long , I can find nothing I disagree with in that ....

 

 

 

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I've gone through literally HUNDREDS of Interviews with David Icke.. I know what I'm talking about and can back up anything I say.

 

He blatantly states that there's an agenda to change and RADIATE the atmosphere.

 

With regards to Fukushima he states that he believes it was manipulated by a weather modification program (you know the name of it) and that these nuclear accidents are BY DESIGN, in order to alter the atmosphere.. because reptilians with their hybrids/full bloods can populate and operate increasingly more within a different atmosphere.

 

It's even mentioned here with regards to Agenda 21.

 

Icke has CLEARLY stated that the elites want to cull the population down to 1 billion or 500 million people.

 

However, my questions make this seem absurd given the population explosion since two major world wars and Africa exploding!!

 

 

 

TRY 1:01:30 - THE RADIATION AGENDA (of the above video)

 

 

In Agenda 21 - the plan to kill you.. he goes into depopulation  as well..

 

Here is another video regarding CULLING THE POPULATION

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ACTUALLY READ HIS BOOKS AND LISTEN AND WATCH HIS LECTURES...

 

 

THEN GET BACK TO ME WITH REGARDS TO THE PRECISE QUESTIONS I HAVE ASKED.

 

 

 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

You have still failed to specify or give a link to what you mean regarding Icke and radiation ... so I put "Icke radiation" in search , this is the first video I got ..4mins long , I can find nothing I disagree with in that ...

 

It's kinda of sad and odd the way that it seems most of these forums users don't actually read the guys work neither actually listen to his interviews on Youtube.

 

I shouldn't have to find examples to his theories. It's written in his books and talked about blatantly in his lectures.

 

He's clearly stated THEY WANT TO ALTER THE ATMOSPHERE, radiated it, to cull the human population, and at the same time the inter dimensionals with their blood lines can operate increasingly more here on earth.

 

My questions are regarding the effects of radiation on the bloodlines across the globe, and with this it would completely contradict physical realty given the effects of gamma radiation etc.

 

Just READ his work and LISTEN AND WATCH his interviews.

 

There is no point being deluded about his theories or anyone else's if they are not properly thought through and examined in light of knowledge.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Robo Newt said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

First video ..... This is a really excellent 15 min breakdown of the Fuckashima event  ... Like many other investigators , Icke concludes this was an Israeli attack on Japan (in retaliation for japan buying oil from Iraq) .....

 

What is questionable is that Icke sees this as part of an overall plan to increase environmental radiation in general .... presumably to make Earth less habitable for humans and more habitable by reptilians  ... I think he's on his own with this idea ... he also greatly overreacted and  said at the time  "Japan is Finished" ...8 years after the event the radiation seems to have almost disappeared and all is fine in Japan. 

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The thing I'm getting from forum users is:

 

They don't actually know his work, read his books, listen and watch his lectures in their entirety.

 

Just go along and blindly believe things without questioning and putting statements authored and lectured, to fact. Including historic, archeological, political and societal information etc.

 

Also, there's some vibe of prejudice going on too... which is really sad considering Icke's always been about 'open mindedness' and questioning.

 

A general low quality of consciousness.. appeals to a certain common denominator with angst & resentment against the system, for life under the system, which most feel in their lives anyway, but as far as questioning his main theories.. there's nothing or any proper intellectual debate about.

 

?

 

All I'm saying is go through his work, lectures, take it apart, and question it all in light of counter theories and provable scientific facts.

 

You have to remember with David Icke is that he covers up a lot of his theories about topics one can do nothing about unless they're preaching hate speech openly OR advocating (illegally) for violent revolution against the system or people within it.

 

I have read his books and I've spent many MANY countless hours studying his lectures and haven't found any answers the questions posed in this thread.

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25 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

 

First video ..... This is a really excellent 15 min breakdown of the Fuckashima event  ... Like many other investigators , Icke concludes this was an Israeli attack on Japan (in retaliation for japan buying oil from Iraq) .....

 

What is questionable is that Icke sees this as part of an overall plan to increase environmental radiation in general .... presumably to make Earth less habitable for humans and more habitable by reptilians  ... I think he's on his own with this idea ... he also greatly overreacted and  said at the time  "Japan is Finished" ...8 years after the event the radiation seems to have almost disappeared and all is fine in Japan. 

 

 

YES!!!

 

I have to say to you that I haven't been able to 'debunk' his ideas and what he talks about... until depopulation and the radiation agenda and all of this pertaining to the bloodlines (still with human genetics) came about.. and how would such survive and proliferate, against the laws of physics currently known, in a radiated atmosphere???

 

Are the Windsors radiated people? His former associate (who deleted evidence of association) in Australia who did interviews and video for him, Lucius Borich (band COG/producer), closely associated to Ash Rothschild in AU (since playing with him in the 90's in an award winning AU band), are they reptilians? According to Icke Ash Rothschild and his real estate/business successful father David Rothschild would have reptilian genetics.

 

When you get past the label of 'right wing conspiracy theorist', his main theories don't make any sense considering what we know about science, yet what little we know about science too.. they still remain ILLOGICAL.

 

With a radiated atmosphere of gamma radiation bloodlines and anything of biological organisms and tissue won't be able to survive over the long term.

 

Why has Africa EXPLODED in population given all the 'agendas'?

 

Why has the global population EXPLODED since two major world wars??

 

Why didn't the inter dimensionals with their hybrids and full bloods DEPOPULATE the planet prior to the industrial revolution and beginnings of antibiotics and other medical advances (still we are primitive compared to where we could be haha) etc?

 

Why wasn't another schism created? Why allow the global population to exacerbate and increase?

 

What's the logic in allowing the population to explode yet then kill it off and radiate the atmosphere so that it threatens extinction of the human race and therefore hybrids/full bloods?

 

Why would it profit the few if the few are to remain the few with a vastly lowered population of 1 billion or 500 million?

 

NONE OF IT MAKES ANY SENSE.

 

 

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The thing I'm getting from forum users is:

 

They don't actually know his work, read his books, listen and watch his lectures in their entirety.

 

Yes ...I'm afraid that's all true ...

 

With regard to your  third video , starts off with an analysis of the trans-human agenda , which most would agree with  , then lays out evidence of a depopulation plan , quiet a bit of strong evidence there , but many researchers  would not agree with Icke on this .. there maybe higher forces scuppering this plan , the cabal are definitely not all powerful..

 

Robo ... You clearly have a good understanding of Ickes ideas ... I suggest it would be beneficial to explore the work of others in this field ...nobody has everything 100% correct , but when you check all other investigators you will find they all agree on 90% , and it's a fair bet that 90% is right ....

 

Other important researchers are , (in order of merit) 

 

Andrew Bartzis (start with Lance White interviews) ... George Kavassilas ..... Alex Jones ..... Alan Watt ..... Dr Salla (he will lead into SSP info) 

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There's also The Khazar Hoax.

 

I've looked into this and asked archeologists and historians about it, genetic origins, and the home land for Jewish people (or those who identify with heritage).

 

It's been debunked in my point of view.

 

Politically I do not wish to go down that path re this forum or talk about current day geopolitics concerning this directly.

 

Icke has clearly stated what his political views are on such matters.

 

Sticking to the questions regarding his theories outlined above.

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6 minutes ago, oz93666 said:

 

Yes ...I'm afraid that's all true ...

 

With regard to your  third video , starts off with an analysis of the trans-human agenda , which most would agree with  , then lays out evidence of a depopulation plan , quiet a bit of strong evidence there , but many researchers  would not agree with Icke on this .. there maybe higher forces scuppering this plan , the cabal are definitely not all powerful..

 

Robo ... You clearly have a good understanding of Ickes ideas ... I suggest it would be beneficial to explore the work of others in this field ...nobody has everything 100% correct , but when you check all other investigators you will find they all agree on 90% , and it's a fair bet that 90% is right ....

 

Other important researchers are , (in order of merit) 

 

Andrew Bartzis (start with Lance White interviews) ... George Kavassilas ..... Alex Jones ..... Alan Watt ..... Dr Salla (he will lead into SSP info) 

 

 

Yes, thank you for this.

 

However, re Alex Jones.

 

Hahaha I'm not going into playing the right or left here or mention the censorship thing either.

 

BUT I think with Alex Jones he's a little biased in his world view, with some things.

 

Why? I'm not a Christian neither grew up in a Christian/religious household, although 1 school I went to was Christian.

 

According to misogynistic, barbaric, primitive, LGBTQIA hating (can I say those words given religious tolerance?) Abrahamic religion, I'm destined for hell & so is everyone else I know of already and have been for most of my life.

 

No doubt about it.. Icke's words have definitely resonated with concerning the humane truths about life and death.

 

I like Icke's open mindedness and lack of dogma regarding spiritual matters and consciousness themes.

 

I respect him for that. Other things I do question.

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2 hours ago, Robo Newt said:

" (dont worry your socks are safe with me,I wont tell anyone, I changed a letter in one of your other usernames so that only someone of ultra-high intellect as yourself would be able to work it out, its clearly way to sophisticated for these other posters)"

 

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT BUDDY.... I'm not out to get you or David Icke..

 

I'm a genuine person with a genuine authentic email contact on this forum with my full name.

 

I have genuinely read David Icke's books, spent good money on them, gone into his theories and watched all of lectures on Youtube.

 

I CANNOT FIND the answers to my direct succinct questions with regards to David Icke's theories... so it makes me come to other various conclusions, about David Icke, politically, cult following, the era we live in, and in terms of authorship.

 

I HOPE that you did CLEARLY read what I posted and the questions concerning this.

 

I don't want to hang onto ideas which are delusions.

 

If Icke or a follower of his work who truly understands things has answers then I want to hear them.

Im sure if you shop online you will be able to buy the "truth" for money..

Just there, as is, no thinking, reasoning or debating required..THE TRUTH! in all its glory!

Like a top-trump card you can pull out and blow people away with..

"..its the truth, Ive got my certificate to prove it, signed by people with letters after their name.."

 

Im sorry, dont let me stand in the way of you asking fellow posters for your perception of information...

 

I am thinking about asking a follower of Tesla if they can build me a transducer so i can draw the negative Ions out of the air and have free energy..

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1 hour ago, Robo Newt said:

Yes, thank you for this.

However, re Alex Jones.

Hahaha I'm not going into playing the right or left here or mention the censorship thing either.

BUT I think with Alex Jones he's a little biased in his world view, with some things.

 

 

That's certainly true ...However he's done more in exposing the basics than anyone on the planet ... things like 9/11 being an inside job ... that the vaccines are intentionally poisoned causing  nearly all Autism  (1 in 60 kids now!! in the US ) and nearly all cancer , satanic child abuse , fluoride in toothpaste and water being a slow poison  ...this was 20 years ago , now he seems very bogged down in politics ...

 

Initially Jones was rabidly skeptical of Icke's reptilian hypothesis , in recent years he's said things like ..." I don't know if the elite are shape shifting lizards but the idea would certainly explain a lot of things"   ....

 

 

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There's other things which Icke doesn't call out specifically regarding the medical healthcare government authority, that happens which causes death & fatal disease, but I'm with you there.

 

I have resigned myself to believing in spite of technological advances in the last 100 years we are still very much primitive as a human race.

 

I've learned this by being a victim of government in this life time. If I had known things earlier and taken conspiracy seriously and the ways of the world here then things may have turned out differently.

 

I woke up too late to the cold water of sobering reality, with or without conspiracies.

 

The only problem that I have with some of the truth movement stuff is that it is not entirely balanced and politically persuasive to the point where the conclusion is: REVOLUTION, all else is BS.

 

Nepotism, corruption, psychopathy, greed at any cost, carelessness, pretense for power.. all of those aspects and much more are a part of the predatory nature of the animal known as human being - with or without schism & genetic manipulation conspiracies.

 

I am not trying to debunk Icke with an attitude of "see I told you so.. he's a fraud!!" none of that.. these are questions I sincerely have which I cannot find answered in his work.

 

Some of the conspiracy theorists and truth movement is of a conservative bent. The Christian stuff (or it's alternatives) I can't stand. I don't follow Abrahamic religion, it's just too misogynistic and barbaric/primitive.

 

To be honest, many (not all) of the conservatives they are banning and censoring don't actually say a lot.. most of them are not exactly 'woke people' they're just center right wing and also a step back from the ultra right (which doesn't actually exist anymore, unless it's a watered down front in areas of Europe, because that stuff became stomped on and illegal to promote/broadcast). It all goes as far right as UKIP. One more step from the center right conservative government. Same thing on the left too. As known leftist media stops at things like the total acceptance of implementation of Sharia Law or Communism.

 

The celebrities - you know them well - who push Socialist styled themes are merely 'Champagne Socialists' with nice big bank accounts and lifestyles true government controlled austerity would take away.

 

Icke is right in the sense that there's always controlled alternatives politically. This is natural to any power structure otherwise given the nature of man we'd be in civil warfare.

 

If it's a right wing vote you see that is logical to the problems occurring across the west then the only alternative is to put up with idiotic right wing Christians or stupid arrogance that has this dulled down homophobia and regressive backwards biblical values idealism attached to it.

 

Aspects of the progressive left are crazy but there's also a bit of logic and openness with some policies too.

 

It's like two sides of a messed up coin.

 

The problems do not go away though, no matter which party gets into government, and yes, there's directive domestic and foreign policies always present. This Icke speaks of.

 

Without question David Icke puts things in a particular way which are so concise. His communications on matters really resonates at times, it has human logic to it, it's not manipulation & game playing, and because of this it's silly to just write him off as an entire fraud.

 

It's almost as if some look to him for answers to everything because he's got a prolific following but those specific questions I cannot find answered in his work.

 

It would clarify politically who he actually votes for in the UK and is associated to politically. If he said 'none' then I'd accept that too.

 

One critique that I have is Icke's books seem like they are written very quickly, or JUMBLED TOGETHER, lacking empirical evidence to back up his theories and claims.

 

With some things, like scandals and news, he's spot on yet going off what has come out at the same time to be public knowledge.

 

His main ideas are theoretical though, and there's the catch.

 

We have to extrapolate theories in light of logic, questioning, and information factual/otherwise.

 

 

To reiterate.

 

 

"I have to say to you that I haven't been able to 'debunk' his ideas and what he talks about... until depopulation and the radiation agenda and all of this pertaining to the bloodlines (still with human genetics) came about.. and how would such survive and proliferate, against the laws of physics currently known, in a radiated atmosphere???

 

Are the Windsors radiated people? His former associate (who deleted evidence of association) in Australia who did interviews and video for him, Lucius Borich (band COG/producer), closely associated to Ash Rothschild in AU (since playing with him in the 90's in an award winning AU band), are they reptilians? According to Icke Ash Rothschild and his real estate/business successful father David Rothschild would have reptilian genetics.

 

When you get past the label of 'right wing conspiracy theorist', his main theories don't make any sense considering what we know about science, yet what little we know about science too.. they still remain ILLOGICAL.

 

With a radiated atmosphere of gamma radiation bloodlines and anything of biological organisms and tissue won't be able to survive over the long term.

 

Why has Africa EXPLODED in population given all the 'agendas'?

 

Why has the global population EXPLODED since two major world wars??

 

Why didn't the inter dimensionals with their hybrids and full bloods DEPOPULATE the planet prior to the industrial revolution and beginnings of antibiotics and other medical advances (still we are primitive compared to where we could be haha) etc?

 

Why wasn't another schism created? Why allow the global population to exacerbate and increase?

 

What's the logic in allowing the population to explode yet then kill it off and radiate the atmosphere so that it threatens extinction of the human race and therefore hybrids/full bloods?

 

Why would it profit the few if the few are to remain the few with a vastly lowered population of 1 billion or 500 million? To centralize power for fewer and fewer people? So that the already 'few' become even 'fewer' still after depopulation? What of the proliferation of the reptilian bloodlines breeding more and more to increase their population in a radiated atmosphere? There are some contradictions."

 

 

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